Re: GNOME Accessibility on by default, and Firefox
- From: Li Yuan <Li Yuan Sun COM>
- To: Willie Walker <William Walker Sun COM>
- Cc: dev-accessibility lists mozilla org, David Bolter <david bolter utoronto ca>, Aaron Leventhal <aaronlev moonset net>, Gnome Accessibility List <gnome-accessibility-list gnome org>
- Subject: Re: GNOME Accessibility on by default, and Firefox
- Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 11:19:06 +0800
Willie Walker wrote:
I think there's a few things to consider:
1) How to delay the creation of the accessible peers - we don't want to
create them if nobody is interested. Related to this, how to delete any
accessible peers if all assistive technologies go away.
I guess making sure GAIL (& other ATK implementations), atk-bridge and
AT not to do unnecessary ref is important. And un-ref all accessible
peers when AT is quiting.
2) How to delay the emission of events - we don't want to emit them if
nobody is interested. As with #1, how to stop the emission of events if
all event-driven assistive technologies go away.
If we don't create objects, the signals will not be emitted. And if
objects are gone, there is also no signals. And of course we can tell
atk-bridge not to emit all signals also.
3) How to do the above, yet also ensure that applications are
discoverable to assistive technologies and vice versa.
I think we can do this by a initialize function which only register the
application.
Li
In order to accomplish this, I think *some* level of a11y support needs
to be on, but it could be a simple rendezvous mechanism that doesn't
require peers to be created for all objects in an application.
Will
On Sat, 2008-11-01 at 16:36 +0000, Steve Lee wrote:
2008/10/27 Li Yuan <Li Yuan sun com>:
A way to do this in my mind is to create functions in atkmisc, to tell gail
and other accessibility implementations to send out signal or not. If an AT
is started, at-spi-registryd will call the function to tell applications
"now it is time to send out the signals". But this require modification in
all accessibility implementations (Firefix, OpenOffice, Gtk+ applications,
Java applications).
What if that gets pushed down the stack a bit so the decision to
actually send on the wire is made even though ATK/FFx etc still call
and look for events? Would the over head of the function calls that
test and return with no a11y be too much to bear? It would be
localosed in one place and all appswould behave the same.
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