Ang. Re: Ang. Re: Proposal: mouse-only Caribou for GNOME 2.30

[Mats Lundälv <mats lundalv vgregion se>]

Good points David and Gregg. 
Supposedly assignment should be configurable,
but do you have any suggestion for preferred defaults in this range?

Another point for Caribou: 
Don't forget to plan early for good
support for built-in sticky keys functionality. Please DON'T do as in GOK
where this is dependent on the physical keyboard AT settings! (... which
is very unfortunate and illogical, as typical OSK users will not want to
mess with the physical keyboard settings (making it awkward for helpers
who may need to assist using the ordinary keyboard, etc.)

Cheers
Mats

Från:	Gregg Vanderheiden <gv trace wisc edu>
Till:	David Colven <Colven ace-centre org uk>
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Datum:	2009-12-11 16:27
Ärende:	Re: Ang. Re: Proposal: mouse-only Caribou for GNOME 2.30
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If you do such a switch control panel -- you should include
switches that look like function keys 13 through 24.   

Some switches are encoded as those function keys that
do not appear on the keyboard but are supported by keyboard encoders. 


Gregg
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Gregg Vanderheiden Ph.D.
Director Trace R&D Center
Professor Industrial & Systems Engineering
and Biomedical Engineering
University of Wisconsin-Madison
 









On Dec 11, 2009, at 7:39 AM, David Colven wrote:

Glad I keeping some marbles.

I feel what we need - and is part of the ACE contribution to AEGIS - is
a central switch handler (control panel type thing) which reads switches
and that any scanning program can use.  The control panel would deal
with all the methods and filtering and pass scan select (and more) to the
scanning programs.  This would eliminate the need for multiple set-ups
and a lot of duplicate effort in reading switch inputs.

David

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Lee [mailto:steve fullmeasure co uk]
Sent: 11 December 2009 13:36
To: David Colven
Cc: Mats Lundälv; gnome-accessibility-list-bounces gnome org;
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Subject: Re: Ang. Re: Proposal: mouse-only Caribou for GNOME 2.30

2009/12/11 David Colven <Colven ace-centre org uk>:
Sorry if I'm being dum - I am down with flu at the moment
- but I don't see
why a joystick switch inout should not do exactly what
the daisy reader
wants.  Window will not react to input from a USB
fire button unless it's
told to, will ot?

Yes that is exactly correct. AFAIK the foot switch was a USB HID - ie
same as joystick. So the point was that sometimes having events
ignored by the OS can be useful.

Windows doesn't treat joysticks as first class input devices that all
programs must support (like mouse and keyboard). The same with default
X. I'm not familiar enough with the X switch stuff that Willie
mentioned, but get the impression switch events become first class
events so applications including desktop may react. As I said  it
was
an "aside".

Steve
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