Re: Gnome menu

[meg ford <meg387 gmail com>]

The activities overview really doesn't work well for people with physical disabilities. Using the mouse to choose an application can be very tiring, and sometimes impossible for such users. Typing the name of the application is also really difficult. Looking here [1] I don't see a way to navigate the application icons using the keyboard. Maybe that has been added and the documentation hasn't been updated?

There is a shell extension that provides a Gnome 2 style applications menu [2]. I think this should be easier to use.

Meg Ford

[1] http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/shell-apps-open.html.en

[2] https://extensions.gnome.org/accounts/profile/gcampax

On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Dylan McCall <dylanmccall gmail com> wrote:

That's a shame about the accident. I'm glad that GNOME and Debian have
worked for you until now.

The new menus _should_ be accessible. May you please explain what
about them isn't working out? I'm sure that would help to improve the
implementation. As it is, adding a toggle between the two menu layouts
is no simple task: with this menu redesign, the idea of grouping menu
items under things like "Edit" and "View" is going to drift away, so
even if the bits were in place it would be quite difficult to change
it back (especially dynamically).

If I was to guess, the biggest problem for keyboard-accessibility is
that the menus don't open with F10, so you have to reach them with
Tab. Is that the gist of the problem? That might be something to
mandate in the HIG (and maybe add at the toolkit level), because it
_is_ quite surprising. Google Chrome, for example, is keyboard
accessible: its wrench menu can be opened with the usual mnemonics
(Alt+F or Alt+E). They forgot that F10 is the _real_ common
menu-opening shortcut, but they did try :)

If you haven't already found it, the keyboard shortcut to get the
application menu (beside Activities at the top left of the screen) is
Super+F10. You can also use the left and right arrow keys to get
anywhere else on the top bar. Do you find that one works okay?

Thanks,

Dylan

On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 9:29 AM, surma <surma hot ee> wrote:
>
> I’ve been using debian since 27 March of 1996, before gnome everything was quite crappy, but I started using gnome 11 June 2000, and linux turned easy. Then (2004/2005) I had a terrible car accident, I got rammed, then I spent 6 months in coma, which messed up my hands, so I can’t use mouse, that’s why I prefer keyboard. Maake a place under gconf-editor where you can choose the style of menu, so people can use either classic or modern style.
>
> That’s why I can’t use mouse.
> http://www.hot.ee/surma/Surma_24.12.05.jpg
> I built this car myself … and had an accident with it.
>
> This is what was left of my car.
> http://www.hot.ee/surma/katki.jpg
> Tanel
>

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