inaccessible treeviews and tables



Hello,
A while ago I was trying to get some understanding on how to make 3rt party gtk apps accessible. At that time Alejandro Piñeiro pointed me to some docs and bugzilla entries describing the current situation. Unfortunatelly I haven't still mastered that. I have at least realized and hopefully understood at least some verry basic things related to this. For example currently I am able to set accessible labels and I am able to add / tweak relations between labels and the interactive controls they are supposed to label. I know this is not a big deal but I have already tweaked an app or two this way and I know it works fine. Another thing what's currently on my radar are widgets that are often reported as tables or treeviews. Individual rows appear to be keyboard focusable however orca is unable to report their role and text. I guess the common scenario is that the app developers tend to subclass Gtk.CellRenderer to create more visually appealing design. In this case if I understand correctly the content is directly drawn to the widget surface and proper accessibility related properties are skipped from the implementation entirely. By reading gtk reference docs I have came accross a method gtk_cell_renderer_class_set_accessible_type () . That appears to be only info I was able to find related to Gtk.CellRenderer and accessibility. Can anyone please give me a hint so I might try move forward and try learning how to implement accessibility for a widget where Gtk.CellRenderer is used? Do I need to care about Gtk.CellRenderer or should I just set accessibility related properties such as label and description for the affected widgets without looking at Gtk.CellRenderer? How do I refer to multiple treeview colums or table cells in such implementation? Is there an app or just a code example I should look into to see this in action? I have seen widgets with incomplete accessibility like this in many apps but if my explanation is not accurate enough here are two from the top of my head. One is the list of torrents in the transmission-gtk svn://svn.transmissionbt.com/Transmission/trunk and the other is a contact list widget in a gtk3 based tox client called venom https://github.com/naxuroqa/Venom . I will be looking into this some more, it may take me a while like it took me ages to figure out and get used to labelling and related stuff so I am just trying maybe with some hint I might master it better this time.

Thanks

Peter



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