Re: New to List

[William Best <standard7452 gmail com>]

Well I suppose that I will try to join their next meeting.  Is anyone else interested in doing so?

Will

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:22 PM Jeremy Whiting <jpwhiting kde org> wrote:

Seems to be here: https://wiki.gnome.org/Accessibility/

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:19 AM, William Best <standard7452 gmail com> wrote:
> Brian,
>
> Where is the site for the GNOME Accessibility Team located?
>
> Thanks!
> Will
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:15 PM William Best <standard7452 gmail com>
> wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I am familiar with GOK, and actually tracked down the original authors of
>> that software.  I believe they were from the University of Toronto, and were
>> no longer interested in doing that.  I am not sure about caribou.  I think a
>> nice solution would be to integrate switch/pointer access in conjunction
>> with speech recognition.
>>
>> This is a software application that some of the people I work with use:
>> http://goo.gl/43Mev6
>>
>> It is nearly $1000 USD though.
>>
>> I think there has to be someone out there with the skills to create
>> something like this as an open source project.  That is what I would like to
>> help accomplish.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Will
>>
>> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:02 PM Cesar Mauri <cesar crea-si com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Will,
>>>
>>> Not sure, not much into Gnome specific development, but in the past
>>> there were efforts devoted to a project called GOK [1]. It was a
>>> on-screen keyboard which supported scanning access. It seems that now it
>>> has been replaced by Caribou [2]. Not sure about its current status. The
>>> folks involved in this project might provide you more insight.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>>
>>> https://developer.gnome.org/accessibility-devel-guide/stable/idp5239184.html
>>> [2]
>>>
>>> https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Projects/Caribou?action="">
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> César
>>>
>>> El 29/05/2015 a las 17:37, William Best escribió:
>>> > Cesar,
>>> >
>>> > I am going to try out your Viacam project with one of my individuals
>>> > at the beginning of next week.
>>> >
>>> > I would like to get a project going that would bring switch access to
>>> > Gnome via a programmable on-screen keyboard.
>>> >
>>> > How can something like this get started?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks!
>>> > Will
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 11:21 AM Cesar Mauri <cesar crea-si com
>>> > <mailto:cesar crea-si com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >     Welcome William,
>>> >
>>> >     I've been working with people with cerebral palsy for more than ten
>>> >     years and I maintain the Enable Viacam [1] open source project.
>>> >     Here in
>>> >     Spain I'm also involved in this project [2] (web page in Spanish,
>>> >     sorry)
>>> >     in which we try to improve the social participation of people with
>>> >     cerebral palsy through the use of technology.
>>> >
>>> >     In my view, there is still a lot to be done and, in general,
>>> >     accessibility is always lagging behind the pace of innovation,
>>> >     even more
>>> >     in the FOSS arena. Unfortunately, most "state of the art" assistive
>>> >     technology is privative and, often, scandalously expensive, as you
>>> >     already know.
>>> >
>>> >     As for speech recognition, we also had little success with people
>>> > with
>>> >     cerebral palsy due to their speech disorders (dysarthria). In most
>>> >     cases
>>> >     we have to rely on other input methods such as alternative
>>> > keyboards,
>>> >     mouses, joysticks or even switches and scanning techniques. Up to
>>> > our
>>> >     knowledge, best solutions for specialised scanning access and AAC
>>> > are
>>> >     only available for Windows and, in general, privative. One
>>> >     exception is
>>> >     SAW (Special Access to Windows) [3], very powerful but only for
>>> >     Windows
>>> >     and hard to use for most people. It would great if we had
>>> >     something like
>>> >     SAW but easy to use and available for FOSS environments. And this
>>> > is
>>> >     just an example. Also open to collaborate.
>>> >
>>> >     [1] http://viacam.org
>>> >     [2] http://aspacenet.aspace.org/
>>> >     [3] https://sourceforge.net/projects/sawat/
>>> >
>>> >     Regards,
>>> >
>>> >     César
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     El 29/05/2015 a las 15:17, William Best escribió:
>>> >     > Eric,
>>> >     >
>>> >     > I would love to help you with your project where I can. My
>>> > strengths
>>> >     > are not in writing code per se, but I understand the issues you
>>> >     face.
>>> >     > I work with 120 individuals with all forms of disabilities.
>>> >     >
>>> >     > How successful have you been with using voice recognition using
>>> >     > Windows?  I have had limited success with voice recognition
>>> >     technology
>>> >     > in my work.  This is mostly due to the people who have physical
>>> >     > disabilities have cerebral palsy which also presents speech
>>> > problems
>>> >     > in these cases.
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Access is difficult for folks with disabilities, and my goal is
>>> > to
>>> >     > collaborate with others to create open source versions of some
>>> > very
>>> >     > expensive propriety software systems.
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Could you send a video of you using your setup so I can
>>> >     visualize it?
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Thanks!
>>> >     > Will
>>> >     >
>>> >     > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 9:06 AM Eric Johansson <esj eggo org
>>> >     <mailto:esj eggo org>
>>> >     > <mailto:esj eggo org <mailto:esj eggo org>>> wrote:
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     Welcome to the list. I joined because I am disabled and
>>> >     >     unfortunately the accessibility models currently available
>>> >     do not
>>> >     >     help me in the slightest. I was hoping to find the time to
>>> > serve
>>> >     >     my own needs which I know would serve the needs of other
>>> > people
>>> >     >     like myself with upper extremities disabilities and dependent
>>> > on
>>> >     >     speech recognition.
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     Best laid plans etc cetera. :-)
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     Here's where I'm at and I could use some help.
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     the only really useful speech recognition environment right
>>> >     now is
>>> >     >     nuances naturally speaking followed closely by Microsoft.
>>> >     >     obviously the main problem is they only run on Windows.
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     I have set up a prototype of a working environment where I
>>> > run
>>> >     >     Windows as a virtual machine dedicated solely to speech
>>> >     >     recognition. Then I have a bridge which transfers key codes
>>> > or
>>> >     >     other types of speech events over to Linux from windows.
>>> > Right
>>> >     >     now, I've been somewhat successful with injecting speech
>>> >     generated
>>> >     >     characters into Linux applications. I'm working on the next
>>> >     >     generation now and running into problems with uinput.  as
>>> >     soon as
>>> >     >     i fix those problems, using the community developed macro
>>> >     >     environment, we will have a reasonably useful speech
>>> > recognition
>>> >     >     system driving Linux.
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     What I mean by reasonably useful is that I can drive emacs,
>>> >     write
>>> >     >     prose and a bit of code. With any luck, that would only be a
>>> >     >     stone's throw away from being able to execute code on the
>>> > Linux
>>> >     >     side as a result of interpreting a grammar on the Windows
>>> > side.
>>> >     >     The remote execution capability would put us on a parity with
>>> >     >     what's available on Windows.
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     Anyway, if you'd like to help, I would welcome assistance.
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     On May 29, 2015 8:29 AM, William Best
>>> >     <standard7452 gmail com <mailto:standard7452 gmail com>
>>> >     >     <mailto:standard7452 gmail com
>>> >     <mailto:standard7452 gmail com>>> wrote:
>>> >     >     >
>>> >     >     > Hello,
>>> >     >     >
>>> >     >     > My name is William Best.  I am not sure if this is the
>>> > right
>>> >     >     group to join
>>> >     >     > for how I would like to contribute.
>>> >     >     >
>>> >     >     > My passion/career involves helping people with
>>> > developmental
>>> >     >     disabilities
>>> >     >     > get better access to technology.  Over the past year or so,
>>> > I
>>> >     >     have been
>>> >     >     > experimenting with different Linux distributions to come
>>> >     up with a
>>> >     >     > low-cost, stable, and robust solution for the disabled
>>> >     people I
>>> >     >     work with.
>>> >     >     >
>>> >     >     > My goal is to help get features/apps that would help
>>> > disabled
>>> >     >     people access
>>> >     >     > technology in a better way.
>>> >     >     >
>>> >     >     > Let me know if I am in the right group for this.
>>> >     >     >
>>> >     >     > Thanks!
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
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