Re: [orca-list] Orca screen reader with java swing application

[Shadyar Khodayari <shadyar81 gmail com>]

javaFx in Windows behaves different anyway I recommend to use SWT. It
is native and fully accessible.

On 9/12/22, Michał Zegan <webczat outlook com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> from what I know, javafx is completely inaccessible on linux, with or
> without a bridge, unless that recently changed.
>
> W dniu 1.09.2022 o 19:38, Shadyar Khodayari via orca-list pisze:
> > Hi. Artem,
> > I'm Shadyar a java developer a legally blind computer engineer. I have
> > experience to design and to develop web and desktop applications that
> > be accessible too. I myself use screen-reader daily in both Linux and
> > Windows.
> > If you're working on a accessible application to read by screen
> > reader, I strongly recommend use swt instead of Swing. Swing has been
> > discontinued. If you insist on using a Java product non-native GUI,
> > you can use java-FX. Take a look these project instead of debug a
> > swing project because I predict, this isn't the last bug of Swing you
> > run into it.
> > SWT provides native light weight component for Windows Linux Mac etc.
> > It's an open-source mature project.
> > Java-fx is Oracle's later project after Swing that provides components
> > that usually accessible by default also have additional accessible
> > properties.
> >
> > Shadyar Khodayari
> >
> > On 9/1/22, Artem Semenov via gnome-accessibility-list
> > <gnome-accessibility-list gnome org> wrote:
> > > Hi. My name is Artem, I am developing an accessibility IDE based on
> > > IntelliJ
> > > at JetBrains.
> > > I'm having trouble getting screen reader accessibility of a java swing
> > > app
> > > running with AtkWrapper.
> > > I see that AtkWrapper has loaded and is working. Internal accessibility
> > > methods like AccessibleContext.GetAccessibleName() are called, but Orca
> > > doesn't say anything in the test swing application window.
> > > I start the application like this:
> > > ```shell
> > > ./build/linux-x86_64-server-release/images/jdk/bin/java -cp
> > > "build/tests:/home/user/dev/gnome/jawbuild/lib/jvm/java-17-openjdk-amd64/lib/java-atk-wrapper.jar"
> > > -Djava.library.path=/home/user/dev/gnome/jawbuild/lib
> > > -Djavax.accessibility.assistive_technologies=org.GNOME.Accessibility.AtkWrapper
> > > -Djavax.accessibility.screen_reader_present=true AccessibleJListTest
> > > ```
> > > I'm using ubuntu 20.04 LTS and building AtkWrapper 0.38.0 from source,
> > > and
> > > openJDK 17.
> > > Can you please tell me if this is a known issue or am I doing something
> > > wrong?
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