Re: BonoboPreview initiative - png in a control
- From: Bill Haneman <bill haneman sun com>
- To: Chipzz ULYSSIS Org
- Cc: GNOME Components <gnome-components-list gnome org>
- Subject: Re: BonoboPreview initiative - png in a control
- Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 09:45:29 +0000
Chipzz wrote:
>
> On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Dr. David Gilbert wrote:
>
> > From: Dr. David Gilbert <gilbertd treblig org>
> > Subject: Re: BonoboPreview initiative - png in a control
> >
> > On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Maciej Stachowiak wrote:
> >
> > > Do thumbnails in a file open dialog really need to be accessible?
> > > They're just extra info, and you can operate the file dialog just fine
> > > completely ignoring them. Indeed, having a screen reader read
> > > something that describes the file contents instead of just reading the
> > > name would be kind of silly.
> >
> > Exactly; what I was saying is that providing a magic facility specially to
> > hold images is not sufficient. For a start somethings are better
> > described by a piece of text, secondly as you say a text summary is useful
> > for screen reading.
> >
> > So we seem to have 3 things (at least) going on:
> >
> > 1) Some users might prefer (require) a text summary rather than text.
> >
> > 2) Some applications are best displayed with images and some with text
> >
> > 3) We need performance.
> >
> > Dave
>
> Maybe you're looking at this from the wrong POV (accessability-wise). Take
> for example a Word document. It may be rendered in a picture, which would
> look largely like this (pardon my bad English ;)
>
> -----
>
> ---- -- ----, -- ---
> -- --- -- ---. -- --
>
> (Imagine the lines as a really small font)
> Is this necessarily bad? I don't think so. A visually impaired person would-
> n't see it anyway, but the screen reader would actually read those things
> that ARE unreadable (for normal persons).
> Even more, though I'm taking a wild guess since I don't know what the capa-
> bilities of atk etc. are, I think we could use them in a way that benefits
> all, like say, when you move your mouse over the preview, you get a zoomed-
> in version of that document, which MAY actually be readable (sort of like
> Enlightenments pager).
Yes, this could be done via the bonobo magnifier as well (a util from
at-spi). This all requires that the "thumbnail" or whatever is
something more than just a png.
best regards,
Bill
> Just my 0.02 Euro (what good is an AZERTY keyboard when it doesn't have a
> Euro symbol? :p)
>
> Regards,
>
> Chipzz AKA
> Jan Van Buggenhout
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