[gnome-db] Re: Feature requests to get gnome-db working with bonddb
- From: Andrew Hill <andru treshna com>
- To: Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo gnome-db org>
- Cc: GDA <gnome-db-list gnome org>
- Subject: [gnome-db] Re: Feature requests to get gnome-db working with bonddb
- Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 13:06:41 +1200
Rodrigo Moya wrote:
On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 03:11, Andrew Hill wrote:
Hello people
I've got some feature requests. I'll try to be general, and I will no
doubt include items that
gnome-db already does. I've specified how important features are to
base functionality
of bonddb. These arn't possible in all sql databases, but if they arn't
it would be good if gnome-db could respond as such (ie feature not
supported in provider).
Information about fields:
Field Types: (not essential)
that's already present, and one of the thins I like the most, since
we've got a lot of custom types, and providers just convert their
internal types to those.
If we need more types, it's just a matter of adding support for them, as
did Gonzalo for the GeometricPoint type, used in PostgreSQL
Nope internal types is fine.
For every field in the database I need to know what the data type it is.
This doesn't need to be
detailed, just to know if its interger, float, text, if got character
limit.
yes, everything is available, except the character limit.
char limit not essential, just next time your working on that code oh yeah
char limit.
Comments: (nessesary)
Comments can be put onto fields, tables etc in postgresql. Certain
information about
relationships are stored sometimes in comments on fields.
right now, we can retrieve this by using the schemas. We could move that
to be included in GdaFieldAttributes, which is what providers return to
clients when these ask them to describe a column.
It'll be best if it was in the attributes. I only use comments put on
fields,
though consivable i might one day use comments on tables. it'll
be awfully handy if it was added into the GdaField class.
Constraints set up (critical)
This is the real imporant one, in knowing what forign keys are there,
and what relationships
they are. This information is in the form of this table and fieldname
refer to this table and
fieldname in a one to many relationship.
I've added the basic beginning for this, which is just the API for
setting/getting this on the rows/tables/etc. Missing is setting this
info in the providers, and extend the set of information providers can
set.
Getting is the more important one. For postgresql I had a class with
a source table and field, and a destination table and field, and
relationship type.
But been able to set in gda would be great for getting around shortcoming of
providers, if provider did't provide that support you could store the
relationships seperately for info just for gnome-db.
Unquie IDs (critical)
In postgresql I use the oid to access unqiue records internally to
bonddb. Oid is a postgresql thing, though oracle has it to. I've
re-written my code to add support for using the primary keys on a table
instead of oids. Knowing what fields in a table are primary keys would
be very useful. So knowing the property of a field, and seeing if it is
a primary key would solve this.
also, I've added a gda_row_set/get_id functions, so that providers, when
they return a row, can set a unique ID on that row. Thus, the client can
reference that unique ID on later operations. Again, providers don't set
this yet, but they will soon.
How does it work?
Do you store an additional id in the table? or work out what the id is?
what if mulitple keys make hte unique id? Would it be easier
adding a attribute primary_key to the field attributes.
Field default value (nessesary)
There is two parts to this, first is knowing the default value set to a
field, and the second
is if that default value comes from a function. Ie if there is a
default value, and it gets that
default value from calling a function, whats the name of the function so
i can not call it.
For example if the default value is set to todays date (by a function).
not available, but we'll add it.
Unique ID of a added record (nessesary)
When you do an insert into postgresql it returns the oid of the newly
inserted record.
I need to run sql statements on a record just entered, and if things
like the primary key
are serial or random values set on insert I need to know those values
when it inserts
so I can reaccess that record. In postgresql provider returning the oid
is fine. For
other databases I can work around the problem with a solution of assign
all the
primary keys a value on insert and dont let anything be assigned by the
database.
once all providers set a unique ID on all rows, we can easily have them
return that ID of the inserted record. Let me think a bit more about
this, since I think we can do all of this in the data models, for which
I've added a begin_edit/cancel_edit/end_edit set of functions, and I
plan on adding a new gda_data_model_append_row, which can then return
the ID of the inserted record.
lol. your addeding bonddb functionalilty to your code. If i know what
the primary
keys are and what there default values, and default functions I can set
all this
on write so in the SQL statement i send.
Views (not essential)
I need a list of all the views in the database, and the SQL statement
that was used
to create the view. I use views to define extra contraint information
and define
certain types of relationships.
it's already available.
sweet. whats the function/attributes wher ei can get a list of views.
Functions (not at all essential)
A list of functions in the system, and the contents of there functions.
I use this a bit in postgresql but its hardly essential to me.
also available.
yah
Anyway this will really help me if we can get some of these implimented.
Or at least
take these into future design considerations.
we'll take all of them into consideration. I'd appreciate if you could
give more detailed suggestions. That is, please start using libgda, and
tell me how/where you'd need the specific features.
I am myself working now on having the data models editable, which will
solve the unique IDs problems and, of course, let us modify the database
without having to issue any SQL command (the SQL will be executed
internally by the providers).
cheers
We implimented gnome-db into bonddb so it now uses it. But it dies real
quick when it comes to running it because it doesn't know what the
primary keys are. I can get to work on a basic class object doing some
of the simiple
functions if I know what fields are primary keys are in a table.
And then th next set would be default values so I could add data to the
database. After that constraints so I can build up proper class objects.
From
there it should be just a matter of tidying up the others to get the
non-essentail
functions working. I have some SQL statements for getting approrpirate data
from postgresql if that would help the postgresql provider. The easiest way
for me to do testing is to get the postgresql provider working with these
new functions and then testing the results set against my native postgresql
backend.
Another useful feature, which I havn't fully implimented in my code but
would be nice,
is knowing what functions arn't and are supported by the provider your
using.
And another thing, do you have a function like gda_connection_new_from_dsn
where you can pass in a single string describing all the connection
information?
So its easy to specify host, if secure or not, username, password etc in
one command.
is there a way to specify the host your connecting to?
Does gda_export_get_tables return a list of all tables? should i be
using that or something
else to get a list of all tables.
Do you know if that gnome-cvs account is set up yet? I should try
checking in some
code.
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