Re: gnome-socket API proposal

[bob cs csoft net]

Um, I agree and dissagree. It should be 2 librarys.
One with all gui related stuff, And one for everything else.
There is no reason to make a socket library or something like that
dependent on X.

On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, Miguel de Icaza wrote:

> 
> > Well yeah, but the overhead is only for a small set of applications. If
> > you add it to libgnomeui, you make libgnomeui bigger and that impacts
> > _all_ applications. 
> 
> Not really.  What does it mean the library is bigger?  It means:
> 
>     1. A few more symbols are included in the library for linking
>        purposes.
> 
>     2. It means that probably one extra page of coded is added.
> 
> Under a typical setup, this extra page does not even play a role.
> until you touch the code on that page, the page is not even loaded
> from the hard drive.
> 
> > That may not seem like much if it's just this sockets
> > stuff, but we have to draw a line or we end up with all kinds of bloat in
> > gnome-libs. Do you want to replace libgnomeui with a giant
> > Bonobo-print-XML-glade library? 
> 
> If I could get a way of linking those shared libraries, i would love
> to create a gigantic library that reflects the *best* setup.
> 
> In SystemV they have libraries for everything.  -lnsl, -lsocket.  In
> Linux we dump them all in libc.  Do they have an impact?  No, they do
> not have an impact.
> 
> > What are the criteria we are going to use
> > to ensure libgnomeui doesn't get any more bloated?
> 
> Again, what is "bloat"?  
> 
> > I think the sensible criterion for inclusion in libgnome/libgnomeui is
> > "almost all apps would potentially benefit from this code." This network
> > code will only be used by maybe 10% of apps. gnome-dns is used less than
> > that even. That's why I was proposing that we remove it, along with lots
> > of other stuff (see libgnomeui/TODO).
> 
> but the networking stuff looks very very good.  It sounds like even an
> obvious thing to have in glib.
> 
> Miguel.
> 
> 
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