Re: Mono and GNOME. The long reply.

[Miguel de Icaza <miguel ximian com>]

> Finally I think we should forget the great opportunity we (Gnome) have
> over the next year or two to grab a place on small GUI applications. WinCE
> (or whatever it is called now) ships with pocket Word and Excell.
> AbiWord/Gnumeric could fill the same role.

Certainly.  That is one good target market.

> I'm not sure this is true. The OO hackers with around 50 full-time hackers
> have spent the last 1.5 years just breaking the application up so that not
> everything appears on the screen at once. 

This is like saying:

	`GNOME has worked for the past 4 years on building a panel'

It is a big overstatement. 

> > I agree that we should have more cross polination between these
> > projects.  Someone should also seriously look at having OpenOffice use
> > Gtk+ or at least use the gtk_draw api to get some theme similarity. 
> > 
> 
> This kind of stuff is way beyond a beginning Gnome hacker. The OO guys
> have to decide to do this themselves. At least they have to tell us they
> want to do this. 

It is beyond the scope of a newcomer to GNOME, but it is not beyond the
scope of a seasoned hacker that wants to make a deep impact.  

It took Raster and Owen a couple of months to do the core work to make
Gtk+ themable.  Something that nobody knew at that time whether it was
possible, it was totally done as a research/visionary thing at the time.

Yes, they are good, but we do have many good hackers on board.

miguel.