From sri at aracnet.com  Mon Jun 19 02:22:55 2006
From: sri at aracnet.com (Sri Ramkrishna)
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:22:55 -0700
Subject: mailing list outtage postmortem?
Message-ID: <1150698175.16686.50.camel@localhost>

Can someone from the system administration team update us on what's
        going on with mailing list archives?  There seems to be very few
        information on:
        
        * How we lost the mailing lists
        * Why have we lost the mailing list archives
        * What is being done currently to restore the mailing list
        archives
        * How do we prevent this from re-occurring      
        
        We have more than 8 years of knowledge and history on those
        mailing list
        archives and it would be a shame if we lost it.  If we have lost
        it,
        maybe we need to also see what else we do not have backups for
        and fix
        the problem.
        
        I'm piping up because there hasn't been anything posted and I
        think some
        of us would like to know what happened.
        
        Thanks,
        sri

-- 
Sri Ramkrishna <sri at aracnet.com>


From kmaraas at broadpark.no  Mon Jun 19 04:29:39 2006
From: kmaraas at broadpark.no (Kjartan Maraas)
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 10:29:39 +0200
Subject: mailing list outtage postmortem?
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s?n, 18,.06.2006 kl. 23.22 -0700, skrev Sri Ramkrishna:
> Can someone from the system administration team update us on what's
>         going on with mailing list archives?  There seems to be very few
>         information on:
>         
>         * How we lost the mailing lists

We've been trying to figure out what causes the flow of mail to stop,
but so far I've not found the cause at least. Others have been looking
at it too without success. jrb said he'd look at it today though.

What happens is that messages take longer and longer to be delivered
until it finally just stops sending out list mail. Bugzilla mail seems
to be unaffected and that gives a clue since we've bypassed virus
checking and spamassassin for bugmail IIRC.

So in effect someone has to babysit the services and restart
mailman/postfix every now and then.

>         * Why have we lost the mailing list archives

The mailman install was updated and the new package has the archives in
a different place than the old one it seems. The data is still there.

>         * What is being done currently to restore the mailing list
>         archives
>         * How do we prevent this from re-occurring      
>         
>         We have more than 8 years of knowledge and history on those
>         mailing list
>         archives and it would be a shame if we lost it.  If we have lost
>         it,
>         maybe we need to also see what else we do not have backups for
>         and fix
>         the problem.

As I said, the data is still there, we just need to do some manual
surgery to merge the old archives with what has accumulated since the
upgrade.

Cheers
Kjartan

>         
>         I'm piping up because there hasn't been anything posted and I
>         think some
>         of us would like to know what happened.

Much appreciated. I hope this helps alleviate the need for information
some.

Cheers
Kjartan



From agarobr.listas at gmail.com  Tue Jun 20 14:24:50 2006
From: agarobr.listas at gmail.com (Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha)
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:24:50 -0300
Subject: What API or tool to search mime association?
Message-ID: <320221a70606201124n4f1c070ao489c044a84782ef@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I'm trying to integrate a mime database with WineTools or Wine itself,
like CrossOver already does for GNOME, to launch a Linux application
from the Wine environment associated with the mime type.

The gconftool seems to be this tool, but I didn't find a clear way to
retrieve such information using it. How to use gconftool to get file
extensions associated to it's mime types and the default action
associated to a mime type?

The following command seems not be usefull in a Debian r3.1 with Gnome 2.12.13:

$ gconftool-2 --dump --recursive-list /schemas | \
egrep "launcher|application|action|mime|extension"

Most of the references about the association between an action and a
mime types point to gnome-vfs, but it's an API and seems to be
deprecated, despite the fact of  being the nautilus core.

No command line tool seems to query mime types, file extensions and
the launch action from a script. In API level, gnome-vfs looks like an
easy option, but the GConf is claimed to me more powerful and
flexible, supporting integration with other environments like KDE.

Can someone point me to a more detailed documentation about mime types
and GConf (or gconftool) usage or give me some breadcrumb trails?

Thanks a lot,
Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha

From andrearo at stud.ntnu.no  Tue Jun 20 14:31:23 2006
From: andrearo at stud.ntnu.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andreas_R=F8sdal?=)
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 20:31:23 +0200 (MEST)
Subject: gnome-sound ogg support?
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0606202029070.18141@gaupe.stud.ntnu.no>

Hi,

Any plans of adding .ogg support to gnome-sound? Currently, it only 
supports wav.

The API states that "Currently it just wraps the esound daemon, but the 
API is flexible enough that other sound infrastructures can be included in the future."
http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.6/libgnome/libgnome-gnome-sound.html

  - Andreas

From kmaraas at broadpark.no  Tue Jun 20 16:14:17 2006
From: kmaraas at broadpark.no (Kjartan Maraas)
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:14:17 +0200
Subject: gnome-sound ogg support?
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References: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0606202029070.18141@gaupe.stud.ntnu.no>
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tir, 20,.06.2006 kl. 20.31 +0200, skrev Andreas R?sdal:
> Hi,
> 
> Any plans of adding .ogg support to gnome-sound? Currently, it only 
> supports wav.
> 
> The API states that "Currently it just wraps the esound daemon, but the 
> API is flexible enough that other sound infrastructures can be included in the future."
> http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.6/libgnome/libgnome-gnome-sound.html
> 
There's a bug for this:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94615

Cheers
Kjartan



From kmaraas at broadpark.no  Tue Jun 20 16:15:12 2006
From: kmaraas at broadpark.no (Kjartan Maraas)
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:15:12 +0200
Subject: What API or tool to search mime association?
In-Reply-To: <320221a70606201124n4f1c070ao489c044a84782ef@mail.gmail.com>
References: <320221a70606201124n4f1c070ao489c044a84782ef@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1150834512.2532.3.camel@rivendell>

tir, 20,.06.2006 kl. 15.24 -0300, skrev Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm trying to integrate a mime database with WineTools or Wine itself,
> like CrossOver already does for GNOME, to launch a Linux application
> from the Wine environment associated with the mime type.
> 
> The gconftool seems to be this tool, but I didn't find a clear way to
> retrieve such information using it. How to use gconftool to get file
> extensions associated to it's mime types and the default action
> associated to a mime type?
> 
> The following command seems not be usefull in a Debian r3.1 with Gnome 2.12.13:
> 
> $ gconftool-2 --dump --recursive-list /schemas | \
> egrep "launcher|application|action|mime|extension"
> 
> Most of the references about the association between an action and a
> mime types point to gnome-vfs, but it's an API and seems to be
> deprecated, despite the fact of  being the nautilus core.
> 
> No command line tool seems to query mime types, file extensions and
> the launch action from a script. In API level, gnome-vfs looks like an
> easy option, but the GConf is claimed to me more powerful and
> flexible, supporting integration with other environments like KDE.
> 
> Can someone point me to a more detailed documentation about mime types
> and GConf (or gconftool) usage or give me some breadcrumb trails?
> 
I think you want to look at the shared-mime-info module in CVS which has
an xml file with mappings between mime types and programs.

Cheers
Kjartan



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On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 13:52 +0200, Étienne Bersac wrote:
> [snip]

> If you can put those ideas in the wiki
> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeScanning , that would be helpful.

The wiki is for _you_ to edit. Just register and log in.

[snip]
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Hello,

> The wiki is for _you_ to edit. Just register and log in.

Don't understand. I create that page. I fill most of it. I just send a
Request For Comment.

Étienne.
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I've just mustered the courage to venture into the wonderful world of
GObject and object oriented C.

I've mostly used two sources:

 - The GObject reference manual:
   http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/gobject/index.html
 - The GObject FAQ:
   http://s1x.homelinux.net/documents/gtk/gobject-faq.html

I'm looking at interfaces and see that they differ in naming (the FAQ is
actually inconsistent in itself).

Questions:
1. Do I need the *_CLASS macros for interfaces? The FAQ defines them
   all but the reference manual doesn't.
2. The macro for getting the interface is called *_GET_IFACE in the FAQ
   and the reference manual uses the longer *_GET_INTERFACE, which one
   should I use?
3. The naming of the "class" of the interface (i.e. the struct that
   inherits from GTypeInterface) is unclear. The FAQ is inconsistent and
   seems to use *Iface in some places and *Class in others. The
   reference manual uses *Interface. Again, which one should I use?

/M

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Hello!

I would like to participate in gnome-platform development.I'm not sure i 
have enough skills to do that but anyways i can try.I'd appreciate if 
somebody writes me back.

P.S.
Sorry for the mistakes i could make - english is not my native language

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В Втр, 06/06/2006 в 13:31 +0800, divan пишет:
> Hello!
> 
> I would like to participate in gnome-platform development.I'm not sure i 
> have enough skills to do that but anyways i can try.I'd appreciate if 
> somebody writes me back.
> 
> P.S.
> Sorry for the mistakes i could make - english is not my native language

You are welcome. There is quite informative guide for newbies who want
to participate

http://live.gnome.org/GnomeLove

First of all you need to choose the between cases described there.
Probably you will be also interested in Russian gnome resources: 

web site http://gnome.org.ru
mailing list gnome-cyr@gnome.org
irc channel #gnome-ru on irc.gnome.org


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Hi
I am sorry to be posting this here if it's not the right place, but I
wasn't able to find a specific gnome-terminal list.
It seems as if gnome-terminal 2.6.1 has decided to hold my Page_up and
Page_down keys hostage and it will not release them. In 2.4, I was able
to use the scroll bar by pressing the Shift+Page_up/dn keys. Without
using the shift key, page up/dn would transmit the correct string to my
terminal program. No matter what I try, I can't get that old behavior
back. I need to have pg up and pg dn transmit xterm equivalent strings
again.
Any ideas greatly appreciated and pleas point me to the right place if
this is not it.
TIA
  


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В Срд, 07/06/2006 в 14:38 -0700, Blaine Hulbert пишет:
> Hi
> I am sorry to be posting this here if it's not the right place, but I
> wasn't able to find a specific gnome-terminal list.
> It seems as if gnome-terminal 2.6.1 has decided to hold my Page_up and
> Page_down keys hostage and it will not release them. In 2.4, I was able
> to use the scroll bar by pressing the Shift+Page_up/dn keys. Without
> using the shift key, page up/dn would transmit the correct string to my
> terminal program. No matter what I try, I can't get that old behavior
> back. I need to have pg up and pg dn transmit xterm equivalent strings
> again.
> Any ideas greatly appreciated and pleas point me to the right place if
> this is not it.
> TIA
>   

Dear Blaine

The more appropriate place for reporting bugs is
http://bugzilla.gnome.org, although it's acceptable to ask here.

About your problem itself. The 2.6 version is too old I suppose, there
is already gnome-terminal 2.15. Newer versions work as expected, so an
upgrade should help you.




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Can someone from the system administration team update us on what's
        going on with mailing list archives?  There seems to be very few
        information on:
        
        * How we lost the mailing lists
        * Why have we lost the mailing list archives
        * What is being done currently to restore the mailing list
        archives
        * How do we prevent this from re-occurring      
        
        We have more than 8 years of knowledge and history on those
        mailing list
        archives and it would be a shame if we lost it.  If we have lost
        it,
        maybe we need to also see what else we do not have backups for
        and fix
        the problem.
        
        I'm piping up because there hasn't been anything posted and I
        think some
        of us would like to know what happened.
        
        Thanks,
        sri

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søn, 18,.06.2006 kl. 23.22 -0700, skrev Sri Ramkrishna:
> Can someone from the system administration team update us on what's
>         going on with mailing list archives?  There seems to be very few
>         information on:
>         
>         * How we lost the mailing lists

We've been trying to figure out what causes the flow of mail to stop,
but so far I've not found the cause at least. Others have been looking
at it too without success. jrb said he'd look at it today though.

What happens is that messages take longer and longer to be delivered
until it finally just stops sending out list mail. Bugzilla mail seems
to be unaffected and that gives a clue since we've bypassed virus
checking and spamassassin for bugmail IIRC.

So in effect someone has to babysit the services and restart
mailman/postfix every now and then.

>         * Why have we lost the mailing list archives

The mailman install was updated and the new package has the archives in
a different place than the old one it seems. The data is still there.

>         * What is being done currently to restore the mailing list
>         archives
>         * How do we prevent this from re-occurring      
>         
>         We have more than 8 years of knowledge and history on those
>         mailing list
>         archives and it would be a shame if we lost it.  If we have lost
>         it,
>         maybe we need to also see what else we do not have backups for
>         and fix
>         the problem.

As I said, the data is still there, we just need to do some manual
surgery to merge the old archives with what has accumulated since the
upgrade.

Cheers
Kjartan

>         
>         I'm piping up because there hasn't been anything posted and I
>         think some
>         of us would like to know what happened.

Much appreciated. I hope this helps alleviate the need for information
some.

Cheers
Kjartan



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Hi all,

I'm trying to integrate a mime database with WineTools or Wine itself,
like CrossOver already does for GNOME, to launch a Linux application
from the Wine environment associated with the mime type.

The gconftool seems to be this tool, but I didn't find a clear way to
retrieve such information using it. How to use gconftool to get file
extensions associated to it's mime types and the default action
associated to a mime type?

The following command seems not be usefull in a Debian r3.1 with Gnome 2.12.13:

$ gconftool-2 --dump --recursive-list /schemas | \
egrep "launcher|application|action|mime|extension"

Most of the references about the association between an action and a
mime types point to gnome-vfs, but it's an API and seems to be
deprecated, despite the fact of  being the nautilus core.

No command line tool seems to query mime types, file extensions and
the launch action from a script. In API level, gnome-vfs looks like an
easy option, but the GConf is claimed to me more powerful and
flexible, supporting integration with other environments like KDE.

Can someone point me to a more detailed documentation about mime types
and GConf (or gconftool) usage or give me some breadcrumb trails?

Thanks a lot,
Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha

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Hi,

Any plans of adding .ogg support to gnome-sound? Currently, it only 
supports wav.

The API states that "Currently it just wraps the esound daemon, but the 
API is flexible enough that other sound infrastructures can be included in the future."
http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.6/libgnome/libgnome-gnome-sound.html

  - Andreas

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tir, 20,.06.2006 kl. 20.31 +0200, skrev Andreas Røsdal:
> Hi,
> 
> Any plans of adding .ogg support to gnome-sound? Currently, it only 
> supports wav.
> 
> The API states that "Currently it just wraps the esound daemon, but the 
> API is flexible enough that other sound infrastructures can be included in the future."
> http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.6/libgnome/libgnome-gnome-sound.html
> 
There's a bug for this:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94615

Cheers
Kjartan



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tir, 20,.06.2006 kl. 15.24 -0300, skrev Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm trying to integrate a mime database with WineTools or Wine itself,
> like CrossOver already does for GNOME, to launch a Linux application
> from the Wine environment associated with the mime type.
> 
> The gconftool seems to be this tool, but I didn't find a clear way to
> retrieve such information using it. How to use gconftool to get file
> extensions associated to it's mime types and the default action
> associated to a mime type?
> 
> The following command seems not be usefull in a Debian r3.1 with Gnome 2.12.13:
> 
> $ gconftool-2 --dump --recursive-list /schemas | \
> egrep "launcher|application|action|mime|extension"
> 
> Most of the references about the association between an action and a
> mime types point to gnome-vfs, but it's an API and seems to be
> deprecated, despite the fact of  being the nautilus core.
> 
> No command line tool seems to query mime types, file extensions and
> the launch action from a script. In API level, gnome-vfs looks like an
> easy option, but the GConf is claimed to me more powerful and
> flexible, supporting integration with other environments like KDE.
> 
> Can someone point me to a more detailed documentation about mime types
> and GConf (or gconftool) usage or give me some breadcrumb trails?
> 
I think you want to look at the shared-mime-info module in CVS which has
an xml file with mappings between mime types and programs.

Cheers
Kjartan



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On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 15:24 -0300, Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm trying to integrate a mime database with WineTools or Wine itself,
> like CrossOver already does for GNOME, to launch a Linux application
> from the Wine environment associated with the mime type.

If you just want to launch the default app for a file, use
gnome_vfs_url_show(). You could also use lower level APIs like
gnome_vfs_mime_get_default_application_for_uri().

> The gconftool seems to be this tool, but I didn't find a clear way to
> retrieve such information using it. How to use gconftool to get file
> extensions associated to it's mime types and the default action
> associated to a mime type?

gconftool is not involved with the mimetype association.

> Most of the references about the association between an action and a
> mime types point to gnome-vfs, but it's an API and seems to be
> deprecated, despite the fact of  being the nautilus core.

Where did you see gnome-vfs being deprecated?

> No command line tool seems to query mime types, file extensions and
> the launch action from a script. In API level, gnome-vfs looks like an
> easy option, but the GConf is claimed to me more powerful and
> flexible, supporting integration with other environments like KDE.

If you want to do this from a script, you should use gnome-open.

GConf supporting integration with KDE? That sounds very strange. GConf
is the API gnome apps use to store preferences. 

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On 6/21/06, Alexander Larsson <alexl@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 15:24 -0300, Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha wrote:
[cut]
> gconftool is not involved with the mimetype association.

Don't have GConf some things to do with users preferences (like user
settings for
mimetype-application association) and with the default settings on GNOME
system (like default mimetype-application associations)?

[cut]
> Where did you see gnome-vfs being deprecated?

>From "gnome-vfs-mime-database-deprecated"[1], but I was confused with
some posts advising to don't use this part of gnome-vfs API to deal
with mime types. My apologies.
---
[1] http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/gnome-vfs-2.0/gnome-vfs-20-gnome-vfs-mime-database-deprecated.html

[cut]
> GConf supporting integration with KDE? That sounds very strange. GConf
> is the API gnome apps use to store preferences.

Strange or not, I found this:
"GConf does work without GNOME however; it can be used with plain
GTK+, Xlib, KDE, or even text mode applications as well." [2]
---
[2] http://developer.gnome.org/feature/archive/gconf/gconf.html


Many Thanks,
Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha

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On 6/20/06, Kjartan Maraas <kmaraas@broadpark.no> wrote:
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> I think you want to look at the shared-mime-info module in CVS which has
> an xml file with mappings between mime types and programs.

Are you talking about the shared-mime-info code from freedesktop CVS
repository[1] or something in GNOME CVS repository?
---
[1] http://webcvs.freedesktop.org/mime/shared-mime-info/

I didn't find something like shared-mime-info in GNOME CVS repository.


Regards,
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P=C3=A5 Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 11:03:03AM -0300, Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha s=
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> On 6/20/06, Kjartan Maraas <kmaraas@broadpark.no> wrote:
> [cut]
> > I think you want to look at the shared-mime-info module in CVS which has
> > an xml file with mappings between mime types and programs.
>=20
> Are you talking about the shared-mime-info code from freedesktop CVS
> repository[1] or something in GNOME CVS repository?

Gnome uses the shared-mime-info module from freedesktop.org.

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On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 13:52 +0200, Étienne Bersac wrote:
> [snip]

> If you can put those ideas in the wiki
> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeScanning , that would be helpful.

The wiki is for _you_ to edit. Just register and log in.

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> The wiki is for _you_ to edit. Just register and log in.

Don't understand. I create that page. I fill most of it. I just send a
Request For Comment.

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I've just mustered the courage to venture into the wonderful world of
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I've mostly used two sources:

 - The GObject reference manual:
   http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/gobject/index.html
 - The GObject FAQ:
   http://s1x.homelinux.net/documents/gtk/gobject-faq.html

I'm looking at interfaces and see that they differ in naming (the FAQ is
actually inconsistent in itself).

Questions:
1. Do I need the *_CLASS macros for interfaces? The FAQ defines them
   all but the reference manual doesn't.
2. The macro for getting the interface is called *_GET_IFACE in the FAQ
   and the reference manual uses the longer *_GET_INTERFACE, which one
   should I use?
3. The naming of the "class" of the interface (i.e. the struct that
   inherits from GTypeInterface) is unclear. The FAQ is inconsistent and
   seems to use *Iface in some places and *Class in others. The
   reference manual uses *Interface. Again, which one should I use?

/M

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Hello!

I would like to participate in gnome-platform development.I'm not sure i 
have enough skills to do that but anyways i can try.I'd appreciate if 
somebody writes me back.

P.S.
Sorry for the mistakes i could make - english is not my native language

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В Втр, 06/06/2006 в 13:31 +0800, divan пишет:
> Hello!
> 
> I would like to participate in gnome-platform development.I'm not sure i 
> have enough skills to do that but anyways i can try.I'd appreciate if 
> somebody writes me back.
> 
> P.S.
> Sorry for the mistakes i could make - english is not my native language

You are welcome. There is quite informative guide for newbies who want
to participate

http://live.gnome.org/GnomeLove

First of all you need to choose the between cases described there.
Probably you will be also interested in Russian gnome resources: 

web site http://gnome.org.ru
mailing list gnome-cyr@gnome.org
irc channel #gnome-ru on irc.gnome.org


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Hi
I am sorry to be posting this here if it's not the right place, but I
wasn't able to find a specific gnome-terminal list.
It seems as if gnome-terminal 2.6.1 has decided to hold my Page_up and
Page_down keys hostage and it will not release them. In 2.4, I was able
to use the scroll bar by pressing the Shift+Page_up/dn keys. Without
using the shift key, page up/dn would transmit the correct string to my
terminal program. No matter what I try, I can't get that old behavior
back. I need to have pg up and pg dn transmit xterm equivalent strings
again.
Any ideas greatly appreciated and pleas point me to the right place if
this is not it.
TIA
  


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В Срд, 07/06/2006 в 14:38 -0700, Blaine Hulbert пишет:
> Hi
> I am sorry to be posting this here if it's not the right place, but I
> wasn't able to find a specific gnome-terminal list.
> It seems as if gnome-terminal 2.6.1 has decided to hold my Page_up and
> Page_down keys hostage and it will not release them. In 2.4, I was able
> to use the scroll bar by pressing the Shift+Page_up/dn keys. Without
> using the shift key, page up/dn would transmit the correct string to my
> terminal program. No matter what I try, I can't get that old behavior
> back. I need to have pg up and pg dn transmit xterm equivalent strings
> again.
> Any ideas greatly appreciated and pleas point me to the right place if
> this is not it.
> TIA
>   

Dear Blaine

The more appropriate place for reporting bugs is
http://bugzilla.gnome.org, although it's acceptable to ask here.

About your problem itself. The 2.6 version is too old I suppose, there
is already gnome-terminal 2.15. Newer versions work as expected, so an
upgrade should help you.




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Can someone from the system administration team update us on what's
        going on with mailing list archives?  There seems to be very few
        information on:
        
        * How we lost the mailing lists
        * Why have we lost the mailing list archives
        * What is being done currently to restore the mailing list
        archives
        * How do we prevent this from re-occurring      
        
        We have more than 8 years of knowledge and history on those
        mailing list
        archives and it would be a shame if we lost it.  If we have lost
        it,
        maybe we need to also see what else we do not have backups for
        and fix
        the problem.
        
        I'm piping up because there hasn't been anything posted and I
        think some
        of us would like to know what happened.
        
        Thanks,
        sri

-- 
Sri Ramkrishna <sri@aracnet.com>


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søn, 18,.06.2006 kl. 23.22 -0700, skrev Sri Ramkrishna:
> Can someone from the system administration team update us on what's
>         going on with mailing list archives?  There seems to be very few
>         information on:
>         
>         * How we lost the mailing lists

We've been trying to figure out what causes the flow of mail to stop,
but so far I've not found the cause at least. Others have been looking
at it too without success. jrb said he'd look at it today though.

What happens is that messages take longer and longer to be delivered
until it finally just stops sending out list mail. Bugzilla mail seems
to be unaffected and that gives a clue since we've bypassed virus
checking and spamassassin for bugmail IIRC.

So in effect someone has to babysit the services and restart
mailman/postfix every now and then.

>         * Why have we lost the mailing list archives

The mailman install was updated and the new package has the archives in
a different place than the old one it seems. The data is still there.

>         * What is being done currently to restore the mailing list
>         archives
>         * How do we prevent this from re-occurring      
>         
>         We have more than 8 years of knowledge and history on those
>         mailing list
>         archives and it would be a shame if we lost it.  If we have lost
>         it,
>         maybe we need to also see what else we do not have backups for
>         and fix
>         the problem.

As I said, the data is still there, we just need to do some manual
surgery to merge the old archives with what has accumulated since the
upgrade.

Cheers
Kjartan

>         
>         I'm piping up because there hasn't been anything posted and I
>         think some
>         of us would like to know what happened.

Much appreciated. I hope this helps alleviate the need for information
some.

Cheers
Kjartan



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Hi all,

I'm trying to integrate a mime database with WineTools or Wine itself,
like CrossOver already does for GNOME, to launch a Linux application
from the Wine environment associated with the mime type.

The gconftool seems to be this tool, but I didn't find a clear way to
retrieve such information using it. How to use gconftool to get file
extensions associated to it's mime types and the default action
associated to a mime type?

The following command seems not be usefull in a Debian r3.1 with Gnome 2.12.13:

$ gconftool-2 --dump --recursive-list /schemas | \
egrep "launcher|application|action|mime|extension"

Most of the references about the association between an action and a
mime types point to gnome-vfs, but it's an API and seems to be
deprecated, despite the fact of  being the nautilus core.

No command line tool seems to query mime types, file extensions and
the launch action from a script. In API level, gnome-vfs looks like an
easy option, but the GConf is claimed to me more powerful and
flexible, supporting integration with other environments like KDE.

Can someone point me to a more detailed documentation about mime types
and GConf (or gconftool) usage or give me some breadcrumb trails?

Thanks a lot,
Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha

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Hi,

Any plans of adding .ogg support to gnome-sound? Currently, it only 
supports wav.

The API states that "Currently it just wraps the esound daemon, but the 
API is flexible enough that other sound infrastructures can be included in the future."
http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.6/libgnome/libgnome-gnome-sound.html

  - Andreas

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tir, 20,.06.2006 kl. 20.31 +0200, skrev Andreas Røsdal:
> Hi,
> 
> Any plans of adding .ogg support to gnome-sound? Currently, it only 
> supports wav.
> 
> The API states that "Currently it just wraps the esound daemon, but the 
> API is flexible enough that other sound infrastructures can be included in the future."
> http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.6/libgnome/libgnome-gnome-sound.html
> 
There's a bug for this:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94615

Cheers
Kjartan



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tir, 20,.06.2006 kl. 15.24 -0300, skrev Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm trying to integrate a mime database with WineTools or Wine itself,
> like CrossOver already does for GNOME, to launch a Linux application
> from the Wine environment associated with the mime type.
> 
> The gconftool seems to be this tool, but I didn't find a clear way to
> retrieve such information using it. How to use gconftool to get file
> extensions associated to it's mime types and the default action
> associated to a mime type?
> 
> The following command seems not be usefull in a Debian r3.1 with Gnome 2.12.13:
> 
> $ gconftool-2 --dump --recursive-list /schemas | \
> egrep "launcher|application|action|mime|extension"
> 
> Most of the references about the association between an action and a
> mime types point to gnome-vfs, but it's an API and seems to be
> deprecated, despite the fact of  being the nautilus core.
> 
> No command line tool seems to query mime types, file extensions and
> the launch action from a script. In API level, gnome-vfs looks like an
> easy option, but the GConf is claimed to me more powerful and
> flexible, supporting integration with other environments like KDE.
> 
> Can someone point me to a more detailed documentation about mime types
> and GConf (or gconftool) usage or give me some breadcrumb trails?
> 
I think you want to look at the shared-mime-info module in CVS which has
an xml file with mappings between mime types and programs.

Cheers
Kjartan



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On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 15:24 -0300, Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm trying to integrate a mime database with WineTools or Wine itself,
> like CrossOver already does for GNOME, to launch a Linux application
> from the Wine environment associated with the mime type.

If you just want to launch the default app for a file, use
gnome_vfs_url_show(). You could also use lower level APIs like
gnome_vfs_mime_get_default_application_for_uri().

> The gconftool seems to be this tool, but I didn't find a clear way to
> retrieve such information using it. How to use gconftool to get file
> extensions associated to it's mime types and the default action
> associated to a mime type?

gconftool is not involved with the mimetype association.

> Most of the references about the association between an action and a
> mime types point to gnome-vfs, but it's an API and seems to be
> deprecated, despite the fact of  being the nautilus core.

Where did you see gnome-vfs being deprecated?

> No command line tool seems to query mime types, file extensions and
> the launch action from a script. In API level, gnome-vfs looks like an
> easy option, but the GConf is claimed to me more powerful and
> flexible, supporting integration with other environments like KDE.

If you want to do this from a script, you should use gnome-open.

GConf supporting integration with KDE? That sounds very strange. GConf
is the API gnome apps use to store preferences. 

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On 6/21/06, Alexander Larsson <alexl@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 15:24 -0300, Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha wrote:
[cut]
> gconftool is not involved with the mimetype association.

Don't have GConf some things to do with users preferences (like user
settings for
mimetype-application association) and with the default settings on GNOME
system (like default mimetype-application associations)?

[cut]
> Where did you see gnome-vfs being deprecated?

>From "gnome-vfs-mime-database-deprecated"[1], but I was confused with
some posts advising to don't use this part of gnome-vfs API to deal
with mime types. My apologies.
---
[1] http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/gnome-vfs-2.0/gnome-vfs-20-gnome-vfs-mime-database-deprecated.html

[cut]
> GConf supporting integration with KDE? That sounds very strange. GConf
> is the API gnome apps use to store preferences.

Strange or not, I found this:
"GConf does work without GNOME however; it can be used with plain
GTK+, Xlib, KDE, or even text mode applications as well." [2]
---
[2] http://developer.gnome.org/feature/archive/gconf/gconf.html


Many Thanks,
Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha

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On 6/20/06, Kjartan Maraas <kmaraas@broadpark.no> wrote:
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> I think you want to look at the shared-mime-info module in CVS which has
> an xml file with mappings between mime types and programs.

Are you talking about the shared-mime-info code from freedesktop CVS
repository[1] or something in GNOME CVS repository?
---
[1] http://webcvs.freedesktop.org/mime/shared-mime-info/

I didn't find something like shared-mime-info in GNOME CVS repository.


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> > I think you want to look at the shared-mime-info module in CVS which has
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> Are you talking about the shared-mime-info code from freedesktop CVS
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Gnome uses the shared-mime-info module from freedesktop.org.

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I get a subdirectory libgswitchit when I checkout gnome-applets, yet I 
can't see libgswitchit in http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnome-applets .
Can somebody please educate me on what to look for here to see what 
happens, or point me to somewhere where such wizardry is described ?
CVS just shows :-
cvs server: Updating libgswitchit
with no explanation of anything unusual happening
thanks
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> with no explanation of anything unusual happening
It is standard CVS feature, called "virtual modules" (RTFM:). There is
a file CVSROOT/modules (unfortunately not visible in viewcvs web UI)
which contains some extra information about modules. There, you can
ask to add one module as a subdirectory to another modules. In gnome,
libgswitchit (top-level module) is added to gnome-control-center and
gnome-applets.

HTH,

Sergey

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Hi list,

I searched on the web for an GNOME/GTK indentation style and got two basic 
hits:

http://developer.gnome.org/doc/guides/programming-guidelines/code-style.html
and a mailing list message which mentioned that the existing style should be 
preserved.

Are the sample sections provided in .emacs and .vimrc mentioned in the 
'programming guidelines' (URL above) sufficient?  If not, can someone share 
any configuration file (indent.pro, .emacs, .vimrc, anything really) that 
can help set the indentation style for guys who intend to start contributing 
to the project?

thanks,
rajput deri

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On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 13:52 +0200, Étienne Bersac wrote:
> [snip]

> If you can put those ideas in the wiki
> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeScanning , that would be helpful.

The wiki is for _you_ to edit. Just register and log in.

[snip]
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Hello,

> The wiki is for _you_ to edit. Just register and log in.

Don't understand. I create that page. I fill most of it. I just send a
Request For Comment.

Étienne.
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I've just mustered the courage to venture into the wonderful world of
GObject and object oriented C.

I've mostly used two sources:

 - The GObject reference manual:
   http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/gobject/index.html
 - The GObject FAQ:
   http://s1x.homelinux.net/documents/gtk/gobject-faq.html

I'm looking at interfaces and see that they differ in naming (the FAQ is
actually inconsistent in itself).

Questions:
1. Do I need the *_CLASS macros for interfaces? The FAQ defines them
   all but the reference manual doesn't.
2. The macro for getting the interface is called *_GET_IFACE in the FAQ
   and the reference manual uses the longer *_GET_INTERFACE, which one
   should I use?
3. The naming of the "class" of the interface (i.e. the struct that
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   reference manual uses *Interface. Again, which one should I use?

/M

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On Sun, 2006-06-04 at 20:48 -0500, Robin Cook wrote:
> Are the gnome 1.x libs and apps still supported?

No.

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Hello!

I would like to participate in gnome-platform development.I'm not sure i 
have enough skills to do that but anyways i can try.I'd appreciate if 
somebody writes me back.

P.S.
Sorry for the mistakes i could make - english is not my native language

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В Втр, 06/06/2006 в 13:31 +0800, divan пишет:
> Hello!
> 
> I would like to participate in gnome-platform development.I'm not sure i 
> have enough skills to do that but anyways i can try.I'd appreciate if 
> somebody writes me back.
> 
> P.S.
> Sorry for the mistakes i could make - english is not my native language

You are welcome. There is quite informative guide for newbies who want
to participate

http://live.gnome.org/GnomeLove

First of all you need to choose the between cases described there.
Probably you will be also interested in Russian gnome resources: 

web site http://gnome.org.ru
mailing list gnome-cyr@gnome.org
irc channel #gnome-ru on irc.gnome.org


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Hi
I am sorry to be posting this here if it's not the right place, but I
wasn't able to find a specific gnome-terminal list.
It seems as if gnome-terminal 2.6.1 has decided to hold my Page_up and
Page_down keys hostage and it will not release them. In 2.4, I was able
to use the scroll bar by pressing the Shift+Page_up/dn keys. Without
using the shift key, page up/dn would transmit the correct string to my
terminal program. No matter what I try, I can't get that old behavior
back. I need to have pg up and pg dn transmit xterm equivalent strings
again.
Any ideas greatly appreciated and pleas point me to the right place if
this is not it.
TIA
  


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В Срд, 07/06/2006 в 14:38 -0700, Blaine Hulbert пишет:
> Hi
> I am sorry to be posting this here if it's not the right place, but I
> wasn't able to find a specific gnome-terminal list.
> It seems as if gnome-terminal 2.6.1 has decided to hold my Page_up and
> Page_down keys hostage and it will not release them. In 2.4, I was able
> to use the scroll bar by pressing the Shift+Page_up/dn keys. Without
> using the shift key, page up/dn would transmit the correct string to my
> terminal program. No matter what I try, I can't get that old behavior
> back. I need to have pg up and pg dn transmit xterm equivalent strings
> again.
> Any ideas greatly appreciated and pleas point me to the right place if
> this is not it.
> TIA
>   

Dear Blaine

The more appropriate place for reporting bugs is
http://bugzilla.gnome.org, although it's acceptable to ask here.

About your problem itself. The 2.6 version is too old I suppose, there
is already gnome-terminal 2.15. Newer versions work as expected, so an
upgrade should help you.




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Can someone from the system administration team update us on what's
        going on with mailing list archives?  There seems to be very few
        information on:
        
        * How we lost the mailing lists
        * Why have we lost the mailing list archives
        * What is being done currently to restore the mailing list
        archives
        * How do we prevent this from re-occurring      
        
        We have more than 8 years of knowledge and history on those
        mailing list
        archives and it would be a shame if we lost it.  If we have lost
        it,
        maybe we need to also see what else we do not have backups for
        and fix
        the problem.
        
        I'm piping up because there hasn't been anything posted and I
        think some
        of us would like to know what happened.
        
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        sri

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søn, 18,.06.2006 kl. 23.22 -0700, skrev Sri Ramkrishna:
> Can someone from the system administration team update us on what's
>         going on with mailing list archives?  There seems to be very few
>         information on:
>         
>         * How we lost the mailing lists

We've been trying to figure out what causes the flow of mail to stop,
but so far I've not found the cause at least. Others have been looking
at it too without success. jrb said he'd look at it today though.

What happens is that messages take longer and longer to be delivered
until it finally just stops sending out list mail. Bugzilla mail seems
to be unaffected and that gives a clue since we've bypassed virus
checking and spamassassin for bugmail IIRC.

So in effect someone has to babysit the services and restart
mailman/postfix every now and then.

>         * Why have we lost the mailing list archives

The mailman install was updated and the new package has the archives in
a different place than the old one it seems. The data is still there.

>         * What is being done currently to restore the mailing list
>         archives
>         * How do we prevent this from re-occurring      
>         
>         We have more than 8 years of knowledge and history on those
>         mailing list
>         archives and it would be a shame if we lost it.  If we have lost
>         it,
>         maybe we need to also see what else we do not have backups for
>         and fix
>         the problem.

As I said, the data is still there, we just need to do some manual
surgery to merge the old archives with what has accumulated since the
upgrade.

Cheers
Kjartan

>         
>         I'm piping up because there hasn't been anything posted and I
>         think some
>         of us would like to know what happened.

Much appreciated. I hope this helps alleviate the need for information
some.

Cheers
Kjartan



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Hi all,

I'm trying to integrate a mime database with WineTools or Wine itself,
like CrossOver already does for GNOME, to launch a Linux application
from the Wine environment associated with the mime type.

The gconftool seems to be this tool, but I didn't find a clear way to
retrieve such information using it. How to use gconftool to get file
extensions associated to it's mime types and the default action
associated to a mime type?

The following command seems not be usefull in a Debian r3.1 with Gnome 2.12.13:

$ gconftool-2 --dump --recursive-list /schemas | \
egrep "launcher|application|action|mime|extension"

Most of the references about the association between an action and a
mime types point to gnome-vfs, but it's an API and seems to be
deprecated, despite the fact of  being the nautilus core.

No command line tool seems to query mime types, file extensions and
the launch action from a script. In API level, gnome-vfs looks like an
easy option, but the GConf is claimed to me more powerful and
flexible, supporting integration with other environments like KDE.

Can someone point me to a more detailed documentation about mime types
and GConf (or gconftool) usage or give me some breadcrumb trails?

Thanks a lot,
Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha

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Hi,

Any plans of adding .ogg support to gnome-sound? Currently, it only 
supports wav.

The API states that "Currently it just wraps the esound daemon, but the 
API is flexible enough that other sound infrastructures can be included in the future."
http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.6/libgnome/libgnome-gnome-sound.html

  - Andreas

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tir, 20,.06.2006 kl. 20.31 +0200, skrev Andreas Røsdal:
> Hi,
> 
> Any plans of adding .ogg support to gnome-sound? Currently, it only 
> supports wav.
> 
> The API states that "Currently it just wraps the esound daemon, but the 
> API is flexible enough that other sound infrastructures can be included in the future."
> http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.6/libgnome/libgnome-gnome-sound.html
> 
There's a bug for this:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94615

Cheers
Kjartan



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tir, 20,.06.2006 kl. 15.24 -0300, skrev Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm trying to integrate a mime database with WineTools or Wine itself,
> like CrossOver already does for GNOME, to launch a Linux application
> from the Wine environment associated with the mime type.
> 
> The gconftool seems to be this tool, but I didn't find a clear way to
> retrieve such information using it. How to use gconftool to get file
> extensions associated to it's mime types and the default action
> associated to a mime type?
> 
> The following command seems not be usefull in a Debian r3.1 with Gnome 2.12.13:
> 
> $ gconftool-2 --dump --recursive-list /schemas | \
> egrep "launcher|application|action|mime|extension"
> 
> Most of the references about the association between an action and a
> mime types point to gnome-vfs, but it's an API and seems to be
> deprecated, despite the fact of  being the nautilus core.
> 
> No command line tool seems to query mime types, file extensions and
> the launch action from a script. In API level, gnome-vfs looks like an
> easy option, but the GConf is claimed to me more powerful and
> flexible, supporting integration with other environments like KDE.
> 
> Can someone point me to a more detailed documentation about mime types
> and GConf (or gconftool) usage or give me some breadcrumb trails?
> 
I think you want to look at the shared-mime-info module in CVS which has
an xml file with mappings between mime types and programs.

Cheers
Kjartan



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On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 15:24 -0300, Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm trying to integrate a mime database with WineTools or Wine itself,
> like CrossOver already does for GNOME, to launch a Linux application
> from the Wine environment associated with the mime type.

If you just want to launch the default app for a file, use
gnome_vfs_url_show(). You could also use lower level APIs like
gnome_vfs_mime_get_default_application_for_uri().

> The gconftool seems to be this tool, but I didn't find a clear way to
> retrieve such information using it. How to use gconftool to get file
> extensions associated to it's mime types and the default action
> associated to a mime type?

gconftool is not involved with the mimetype association.

> Most of the references about the association between an action and a
> mime types point to gnome-vfs, but it's an API and seems to be
> deprecated, despite the fact of  being the nautilus core.

Where did you see gnome-vfs being deprecated?

> No command line tool seems to query mime types, file extensions and
> the launch action from a script. In API level, gnome-vfs looks like an
> easy option, but the GConf is claimed to me more powerful and
> flexible, supporting integration with other environments like KDE.

If you want to do this from a script, you should use gnome-open.

GConf supporting integration with KDE? That sounds very strange. GConf
is the API gnome apps use to store preferences. 

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On 6/21/06, Alexander Larsson <alexl@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 15:24 -0300, Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha wrote:
[cut]
> gconftool is not involved with the mimetype association.

Don't have GConf some things to do with users preferences (like user
settings for
mimetype-application association) and with the default settings on GNOME
system (like default mimetype-application associations)?

[cut]
> Where did you see gnome-vfs being deprecated?

>From "gnome-vfs-mime-database-deprecated"[1], but I was confused with
some posts advising to don't use this part of gnome-vfs API to deal
with mime types. My apologies.
---
[1] http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/gnome-vfs-2.0/gnome-vfs-20-gnome-vfs-mime-database-deprecated.html

[cut]
> GConf supporting integration with KDE? That sounds very strange. GConf
> is the API gnome apps use to store preferences.

Strange or not, I found this:
"GConf does work without GNOME however; it can be used with plain
GTK+, Xlib, KDE, or even text mode applications as well." [2]
---
[2] http://developer.gnome.org/feature/archive/gconf/gconf.html


Many Thanks,
Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha

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On 6/20/06, Kjartan Maraas <kmaraas@broadpark.no> wrote:
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> I think you want to look at the shared-mime-info module in CVS which has
> an xml file with mappings between mime types and programs.

Are you talking about the shared-mime-info code from freedesktop CVS
repository[1] or something in GNOME CVS repository?
---
[1] http://webcvs.freedesktop.org/mime/shared-mime-info/

I didn't find something like shared-mime-info in GNOME CVS repository.


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P=C3=A5 Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 11:03:03AM -0300, Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha s=
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> On 6/20/06, Kjartan Maraas <kmaraas@broadpark.no> wrote:
> [cut]
> > I think you want to look at the shared-mime-info module in CVS which has
> > an xml file with mappings between mime types and programs.
>=20
> Are you talking about the shared-mime-info code from freedesktop CVS
> repository[1] or something in GNOME CVS repository?

Gnome uses the shared-mime-info module from freedesktop.org.

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I get a subdirectory libgswitchit when I checkout gnome-applets, yet I 
can't see libgswitchit in http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnome-applets .
Can somebody please educate me on what to look for here to see what 
happens, or point me to somewhere where such wizardry is described ?
CVS just shows :-
cvs server: Updating libgswitchit
with no explanation of anything unusual happening
thanks
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> with no explanation of anything unusual happening
It is standard CVS feature, called "virtual modules" (RTFM:). There is
a file CVSROOT/modules (unfortunately not visible in viewcvs web UI)
which contains some extra information about modules. There, you can
ask to add one module as a subdirectory to another modules. In gnome,
libgswitchit (top-level module) is added to gnome-control-center and
gnome-applets.

HTH,

Sergey

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Hi list,

I searched on the web for an GNOME/GTK indentation style and got two basic 
hits:

http://developer.gnome.org/doc/guides/programming-guidelines/code-style.html
and a mailing list message which mentioned that the existing style should be 
preserved.

Are the sample sections provided in .emacs and .vimrc mentioned in the 
'programming guidelines' (URL above) sufficient?  If not, can someone share 
any configuration file (indent.pro, .emacs, .vimrc, anything really) that 
can help set the indentation style for guys who intend to start contributing 
to the project?

thanks,
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Hello Rajput

> Are the sample sections provided in .emacs and .vimrc mentioned in the
> 'programming guidelines' (URL above) sufficient?  If not, can someone share
> any configuration file (indent.pro, .emacs, .vimrc, anything really) that
> can help set the indentation style for guys who intend to start contributing
> to the project?
I use this: http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/libgswitchit/.indent.pro?rev=1.1&view=markup

HTH,

Sergey

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On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 13:52 +0200, Étienne Bersac wrote:
> [snip]

> If you can put those ideas in the wiki
> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeScanning , that would be helpful.

The wiki is for _you_ to edit. Just register and log in.

[snip]
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Hello,

> The wiki is for _you_ to edit. Just register and log in.

Don't understand. I create that page. I fill most of it. I just send a
Request For Comment.

Étienne.
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I've just mustered the courage to venture into the wonderful world of
GObject and object oriented C.

I've mostly used two sources:

 - The GObject reference manual:
   http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/gobject/index.html
 - The GObject FAQ:
   http://s1x.homelinux.net/documents/gtk/gobject-faq.html

I'm looking at interfaces and see that they differ in naming (the FAQ is
actually inconsistent in itself).

Questions:
1. Do I need the *_CLASS macros for interfaces? The FAQ defines them
   all but the reference manual doesn't.
2. The macro for getting the interface is called *_GET_IFACE in the FAQ
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3. The naming of the "class" of the interface (i.e. the struct that
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/M

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Are the gnome 1.x libs and apps still supported?

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On Sun, 2006-06-04 at 20:48 -0500, Robin Cook wrote:
> Are the gnome 1.x libs and apps still supported?

No.

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Hello!

I would like to participate in gnome-platform development.I'm not sure i 
have enough skills to do that but anyways i can try.I'd appreciate if 
somebody writes me back.

P.S.
Sorry for the mistakes i could make - english is not my native language

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В Втр, 06/06/2006 в 13:31 +0800, divan пишет:
> Hello!
> 
> I would like to participate in gnome-platform development.I'm not sure i 
> have enough skills to do that but anyways i can try.I'd appreciate if 
> somebody writes me back.
> 
> P.S.
> Sorry for the mistakes i could make - english is not my native language

You are welcome. There is quite informative guide for newbies who want
to participate

http://live.gnome.org/GnomeLove

First of all you need to choose the between cases described there.
Probably you will be also interested in Russian gnome resources: 

web site http://gnome.org.ru
mailing list gnome-cyr@gnome.org
irc channel #gnome-ru on irc.gnome.org


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Hi
I am sorry to be posting this here if it's not the right place, but I
wasn't able to find a specific gnome-terminal list.
It seems as if gnome-terminal 2.6.1 has decided to hold my Page_up and
Page_down keys hostage and it will not release them. In 2.4, I was able
to use the scroll bar by pressing the Shift+Page_up/dn keys. Without
using the shift key, page up/dn would transmit the correct string to my
terminal program. No matter what I try, I can't get that old behavior
back. I need to have pg up and pg dn transmit xterm equivalent strings
again.
Any ideas greatly appreciated and pleas point me to the right place if
this is not it.
TIA
  


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В Срд, 07/06/2006 в 14:38 -0700, Blaine Hulbert пишет:
> Hi
> I am sorry to be posting this here if it's not the right place, but I
> wasn't able to find a specific gnome-terminal list.
> It seems as if gnome-terminal 2.6.1 has decided to hold my Page_up and
> Page_down keys hostage and it will not release them. In 2.4, I was able
> to use the scroll bar by pressing the Shift+Page_up/dn keys. Without
> using the shift key, page up/dn would transmit the correct string to my
> terminal program. No matter what I try, I can't get that old behavior
> back. I need to have pg up and pg dn transmit xterm equivalent strings
> again.
> Any ideas greatly appreciated and pleas point me to the right place if
> this is not it.
> TIA
>   

Dear Blaine

The more appropriate place for reporting bugs is
http://bugzilla.gnome.org, although it's acceptable to ask here.

About your problem itself. The 2.6 version is too old I suppose, there
is already gnome-terminal 2.15. Newer versions work as expected, so an
upgrade should help you.




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Can someone from the system administration team update us on what's
        going on with mailing list archives?  There seems to be very few
        information on:
        
        * How we lost the mailing lists
        * Why have we lost the mailing list archives
        * What is being done currently to restore the mailing list
        archives
        * How do we prevent this from re-occurring      
        
        We have more than 8 years of knowledge and history on those
        mailing list
        archives and it would be a shame if we lost it.  If we have lost
        it,
        maybe we need to also see what else we do not have backups for
        and fix
        the problem.
        
        I'm piping up because there hasn't been anything posted and I
        think some
        of us would like to know what happened.
        
        Thanks,
        sri

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søn, 18,.06.2006 kl. 23.22 -0700, skrev Sri Ramkrishna:
> Can someone from the system administration team update us on what's
>         going on with mailing list archives?  There seems to be very few
>         information on:
>         
>         * How we lost the mailing lists

We've been trying to figure out what causes the flow of mail to stop,
but so far I've not found the cause at least. Others have been looking
at it too without success. jrb said he'd look at it today though.

What happens is that messages take longer and longer to be delivered
until it finally just stops sending out list mail. Bugzilla mail seems
to be unaffected and that gives a clue since we've bypassed virus
checking and spamassassin for bugmail IIRC.

So in effect someone has to babysit the services and restart
mailman/postfix every now and then.

>         * Why have we lost the mailing list archives

The mailman install was updated and the new package has the archives in
a different place than the old one it seems. The data is still there.

>         * What is being done currently to restore the mailing list
>         archives
>         * How do we prevent this from re-occurring      
>         
>         We have more than 8 years of knowledge and history on those
>         mailing list
>         archives and it would be a shame if we lost it.  If we have lost
>         it,
>         maybe we need to also see what else we do not have backups for
>         and fix
>         the problem.

As I said, the data is still there, we just need to do some manual
surgery to merge the old archives with what has accumulated since the
upgrade.

Cheers
Kjartan

>         
>         I'm piping up because there hasn't been anything posted and I
>         think some
>         of us would like to know what happened.

Much appreciated. I hope this helps alleviate the need for information
some.

Cheers
Kjartan



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Hi all,

I'm trying to integrate a mime database with WineTools or Wine itself,
like CrossOver already does for GNOME, to launch a Linux application
from the Wine environment associated with the mime type.

The gconftool seems to be this tool, but I didn't find a clear way to
retrieve such information using it. How to use gconftool to get file
extensions associated to it's mime types and the default action
associated to a mime type?

The following command seems not be usefull in a Debian r3.1 with Gnome 2.12.13:

$ gconftool-2 --dump --recursive-list /schemas | \
egrep "launcher|application|action|mime|extension"

Most of the references about the association between an action and a
mime types point to gnome-vfs, but it's an API and seems to be
deprecated, despite the fact of  being the nautilus core.

No command line tool seems to query mime types, file extensions and
the launch action from a script. In API level, gnome-vfs looks like an
easy option, but the GConf is claimed to me more powerful and
flexible, supporting integration with other environments like KDE.

Can someone point me to a more detailed documentation about mime types
and GConf (or gconftool) usage or give me some breadcrumb trails?

Thanks a lot,
Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha

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Hi,

Any plans of adding .ogg support to gnome-sound? Currently, it only 
supports wav.

The API states that "Currently it just wraps the esound daemon, but the 
API is flexible enough that other sound infrastructures can be included in the future."
http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.6/libgnome/libgnome-gnome-sound.html

  - Andreas

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tir, 20,.06.2006 kl. 20.31 +0200, skrev Andreas Røsdal:
> Hi,
> 
> Any plans of adding .ogg support to gnome-sound? Currently, it only 
> supports wav.
> 
> The API states that "Currently it just wraps the esound daemon, but the 
> API is flexible enough that other sound infrastructures can be included in the future."
> http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.6/libgnome/libgnome-gnome-sound.html
> 
There's a bug for this:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94615

Cheers
Kjartan



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tir, 20,.06.2006 kl. 15.24 -0300, skrev Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm trying to integrate a mime database with WineTools or Wine itself,
> like CrossOver already does for GNOME, to launch a Linux application
> from the Wine environment associated with the mime type.
> 
> The gconftool seems to be this tool, but I didn't find a clear way to
> retrieve such information using it. How to use gconftool to get file
> extensions associated to it's mime types and the default action
> associated to a mime type?
> 
> The following command seems not be usefull in a Debian r3.1 with Gnome 2.12.13:
> 
> $ gconftool-2 --dump --recursive-list /schemas | \
> egrep "launcher|application|action|mime|extension"
> 
> Most of the references about the association between an action and a
> mime types point to gnome-vfs, but it's an API and seems to be
> deprecated, despite the fact of  being the nautilus core.
> 
> No command line tool seems to query mime types, file extensions and
> the launch action from a script. In API level, gnome-vfs looks like an
> easy option, but the GConf is claimed to me more powerful and
> flexible, supporting integration with other environments like KDE.
> 
> Can someone point me to a more detailed documentation about mime types
> and GConf (or gconftool) usage or give me some breadcrumb trails?
> 
I think you want to look at the shared-mime-info module in CVS which has
an xml file with mappings between mime types and programs.

Cheers
Kjartan



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On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 15:24 -0300, Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm trying to integrate a mime database with WineTools or Wine itself,
> like CrossOver already does for GNOME, to launch a Linux application
> from the Wine environment associated with the mime type.

If you just want to launch the default app for a file, use
gnome_vfs_url_show(). You could also use lower level APIs like
gnome_vfs_mime_get_default_application_for_uri().

> The gconftool seems to be this tool, but I didn't find a clear way to
> retrieve such information using it. How to use gconftool to get file
> extensions associated to it's mime types and the default action
> associated to a mime type?

gconftool is not involved with the mimetype association.

> Most of the references about the association between an action and a
> mime types point to gnome-vfs, but it's an API and seems to be
> deprecated, despite the fact of  being the nautilus core.

Where did you see gnome-vfs being deprecated?

> No command line tool seems to query mime types, file extensions and
> the launch action from a script. In API level, gnome-vfs looks like an
> easy option, but the GConf is claimed to me more powerful and
> flexible, supporting integration with other environments like KDE.

If you want to do this from a script, you should use gnome-open.

GConf supporting integration with KDE? That sounds very strange. GConf
is the API gnome apps use to store preferences. 

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On 6/21/06, Alexander Larsson <alexl@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 15:24 -0300, Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha wrote:
[cut]
> gconftool is not involved with the mimetype association.

Don't have GConf some things to do with users preferences (like user
settings for
mimetype-application association) and with the default settings on GNOME
system (like default mimetype-application associations)?

[cut]
> Where did you see gnome-vfs being deprecated?

>From "gnome-vfs-mime-database-deprecated"[1], but I was confused with
some posts advising to don't use this part of gnome-vfs API to deal
with mime types. My apologies.
---
[1] http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/gnome-vfs-2.0/gnome-vfs-20-gnome-vfs-mime-database-deprecated.html

[cut]
> GConf supporting integration with KDE? That sounds very strange. GConf
> is the API gnome apps use to store preferences.

Strange or not, I found this:
"GConf does work without GNOME however; it can be used with plain
GTK+, Xlib, KDE, or even text mode applications as well." [2]
---
[2] http://developer.gnome.org/feature/archive/gconf/gconf.html


Many Thanks,
Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha

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On 6/20/06, Kjartan Maraas <kmaraas@broadpark.no> wrote:
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> I think you want to look at the shared-mime-info module in CVS which has
> an xml file with mappings between mime types and programs.

Are you talking about the shared-mime-info code from freedesktop CVS
repository[1] or something in GNOME CVS repository?
---
[1] http://webcvs.freedesktop.org/mime/shared-mime-info/

I didn't find something like shared-mime-info in GNOME CVS repository.


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> On 6/20/06, Kjartan Maraas <kmaraas@broadpark.no> wrote:
> [cut]
> > I think you want to look at the shared-mime-info module in CVS which has
> > an xml file with mappings between mime types and programs.
>=20
> Are you talking about the shared-mime-info code from freedesktop CVS
> repository[1] or something in GNOME CVS repository?

Gnome uses the shared-mime-info module from freedesktop.org.

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I get a subdirectory libgswitchit when I checkout gnome-applets, yet I 
can't see libgswitchit in http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnome-applets .
Can somebody please educate me on what to look for here to see what 
happens, or point me to somewhere where such wizardry is described ?
CVS just shows :-
cvs server: Updating libgswitchit
with no explanation of anything unusual happening
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> with no explanation of anything unusual happening
It is standard CVS feature, called "virtual modules" (RTFM:). There is
a file CVSROOT/modules (unfortunately not visible in viewcvs web UI)
which contains some extra information about modules. There, you can
ask to add one module as a subdirectory to another modules. In gnome,
libgswitchit (top-level module) is added to gnome-control-center and
gnome-applets.

HTH,

Sergey

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Hi list,

I searched on the web for an GNOME/GTK indentation style and got two basic 
hits:

http://developer.gnome.org/doc/guides/programming-guidelines/code-style.html
and a mailing list message which mentioned that the existing style should be 
preserved.

Are the sample sections provided in .emacs and .vimrc mentioned in the 
'programming guidelines' (URL above) sufficient?  If not, can someone share 
any configuration file (indent.pro, .emacs, .vimrc, anything really) that 
can help set the indentation style for guys who intend to start contributing 
to the project?

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Hello Rajput

> Are the sample sections provided in .emacs and .vimrc mentioned in the
> 'programming guidelines' (URL above) sufficient?  If not, can someone share
> any configuration file (indent.pro, .emacs, .vimrc, anything really) that
> can help set the indentation style for guys who intend to start contributing
> to the project?
I use this: http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/libgswitchit/.indent.pro?rev=1.1&view=markup

HTH,

Sergey

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On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 13:52 +0200, Étienne Bersac wrote:
> [snip]

> If you can put those ideas in the wiki
> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeScanning , that would be helpful.

The wiki is for _you_ to edit. Just register and log in.

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Hello,

> The wiki is for _you_ to edit. Just register and log in.

Don't understand. I create that page. I fill most of it. I just send a
Request For Comment.

Étienne.
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I've just mustered the courage to venture into the wonderful world of
GObject and object oriented C.

I've mostly used two sources:

 - The GObject reference manual:
   http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/gobject/index.html
 - The GObject FAQ:
   http://s1x.homelinux.net/documents/gtk/gobject-faq.html

I'm looking at interfaces and see that they differ in naming (the FAQ is
actually inconsistent in itself).

Questions:
1. Do I need the *_CLASS macros for interfaces? The FAQ defines them
   all but the reference manual doesn't.
2. The macro for getting the interface is called *_GET_IFACE in the FAQ
   and the reference manual uses the longer *_GET_INTERFACE, which one
   should I use?
3. The naming of the "class" of the interface (i.e. the struct that
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   reference manual uses *Interface. Again, which one should I use?

/M

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Are the gnome 1.x libs and apps still supported?

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On Sun, 2006-06-04 at 20:48 -0500, Robin Cook wrote:
> Are the gnome 1.x libs and apps still supported?

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Hello!

I would like to participate in gnome-platform development.I'm not sure i 
have enough skills to do that but anyways i can try.I'd appreciate if 
somebody writes me back.

P.S.
Sorry for the mistakes i could make - english is not my native language

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В Втр, 06/06/2006 в 13:31 +0800, divan пишет:
> Hello!
> 
> I would like to participate in gnome-platform development.I'm not sure i 
> have enough skills to do that but anyways i can try.I'd appreciate if 
> somebody writes me back.
> 
> P.S.
> Sorry for the mistakes i could make - english is not my native language

You are welcome. There is quite informative guide for newbies who want
to participate

http://live.gnome.org/GnomeLove

First of all you need to choose the between cases described there.
Probably you will be also interested in Russian gnome resources: 

web site http://gnome.org.ru
mailing list gnome-cyr@gnome.org
irc channel #gnome-ru on irc.gnome.org


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Hi
I am sorry to be posting this here if it's not the right place, but I
wasn't able to find a specific gnome-terminal list.
It seems as if gnome-terminal 2.6.1 has decided to hold my Page_up and
Page_down keys hostage and it will not release them. In 2.4, I was able
to use the scroll bar by pressing the Shift+Page_up/dn keys. Without
using the shift key, page up/dn would transmit the correct string to my
terminal program. No matter what I try, I can't get that old behavior
back. I need to have pg up and pg dn transmit xterm equivalent strings
again.
Any ideas greatly appreciated and pleas point me to the right place if
this is not it.
TIA
  


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В Срд, 07/06/2006 в 14:38 -0700, Blaine Hulbert пишет:
> Hi
> I am sorry to be posting this here if it's not the right place, but I
> wasn't able to find a specific gnome-terminal list.
> It seems as if gnome-terminal 2.6.1 has decided to hold my Page_up and
> Page_down keys hostage and it will not release them. In 2.4, I was able
> to use the scroll bar by pressing the Shift+Page_up/dn keys. Without
> using the shift key, page up/dn would transmit the correct string to my
> terminal program. No matter what I try, I can't get that old behavior
> back. I need to have pg up and pg dn transmit xterm equivalent strings
> again.
> Any ideas greatly appreciated and pleas point me to the right place if
> this is not it.
> TIA
>   

Dear Blaine

The more appropriate place for reporting bugs is
http://bugzilla.gnome.org, although it's acceptable to ask here.

About your problem itself. The 2.6 version is too old I suppose, there
is already gnome-terminal 2.15. Newer versions work as expected, so an
upgrade should help you.




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Can someone from the system administration team update us on what's
        going on with mailing list archives?  There seems to be very few
        information on:
        
        * How we lost the mailing lists
        * Why have we lost the mailing list archives
        * What is being done currently to restore the mailing list
        archives
        * How do we prevent this from re-occurring      
        
        We have more than 8 years of knowledge and history on those
        mailing list
        archives and it would be a shame if we lost it.  If we have lost
        it,
        maybe we need to also see what else we do not have backups for
        and fix
        the problem.
        
        I'm piping up because there hasn't been anything posted and I
        think some
        of us would like to know what happened.
        
        Thanks,
        sri

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søn, 18,.06.2006 kl. 23.22 -0700, skrev Sri Ramkrishna:
> Can someone from the system administration team update us on what's
>         going on with mailing list archives?  There seems to be very few
>         information on:
>         
>         * How we lost the mailing lists

We've been trying to figure out what causes the flow of mail to stop,
but so far I've not found the cause at least. Others have been looking
at it too without success. jrb said he'd look at it today though.

What happens is that messages take longer and longer to be delivered
until it finally just stops sending out list mail. Bugzilla mail seems
to be unaffected and that gives a clue since we've bypassed virus
checking and spamassassin for bugmail IIRC.

So in effect someone has to babysit the services and restart
mailman/postfix every now and then.

>         * Why have we lost the mailing list archives

The mailman install was updated and the new package has the archives in
a different place than the old one it seems. The data is still there.

>         * What is being done currently to restore the mailing list
>         archives
>         * How do we prevent this from re-occurring      
>         
>         We have more than 8 years of knowledge and history on those
>         mailing list
>         archives and it would be a shame if we lost it.  If we have lost
>         it,
>         maybe we need to also see what else we do not have backups for
>         and fix
>         the problem.

As I said, the data is still there, we just need to do some manual
surgery to merge the old archives with what has accumulated since the
upgrade.

Cheers
Kjartan

>         
>         I'm piping up because there hasn't been anything posted and I
>         think some
>         of us would like to know what happened.

Much appreciated. I hope this helps alleviate the need for information
some.

Cheers
Kjartan



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Hi all,

I'm trying to integrate a mime database with WineTools or Wine itself,
like CrossOver already does for GNOME, to launch a Linux application
from the Wine environment associated with the mime type.

The gconftool seems to be this tool, but I didn't find a clear way to
retrieve such information using it. How to use gconftool to get file
extensions associated to it's mime types and the default action
associated to a mime type?

The following command seems not be usefull in a Debian r3.1 with Gnome 2.12.13:

$ gconftool-2 --dump --recursive-list /schemas | \
egrep "launcher|application|action|mime|extension"

Most of the references about the association between an action and a
mime types point to gnome-vfs, but it's an API and seems to be
deprecated, despite the fact of  being the nautilus core.

No command line tool seems to query mime types, file extensions and
the launch action from a script. In API level, gnome-vfs looks like an
easy option, but the GConf is claimed to me more powerful and
flexible, supporting integration with other environments like KDE.

Can someone point me to a more detailed documentation about mime types
and GConf (or gconftool) usage or give me some breadcrumb trails?

Thanks a lot,
Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha

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Hi,

Any plans of adding .ogg support to gnome-sound? Currently, it only 
supports wav.

The API states that "Currently it just wraps the esound daemon, but the 
API is flexible enough that other sound infrastructures can be included in the future."
http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.6/libgnome/libgnome-gnome-sound.html

  - Andreas

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tir, 20,.06.2006 kl. 20.31 +0200, skrev Andreas Røsdal:
> Hi,
> 
> Any plans of adding .ogg support to gnome-sound? Currently, it only 
> supports wav.
> 
> The API states that "Currently it just wraps the esound daemon, but the 
> API is flexible enough that other sound infrastructures can be included in the future."
> http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.6/libgnome/libgnome-gnome-sound.html
> 
There's a bug for this:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94615

Cheers
Kjartan



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tir, 20,.06.2006 kl. 15.24 -0300, skrev Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm trying to integrate a mime database with WineTools or Wine itself,
> like CrossOver already does for GNOME, to launch a Linux application
> from the Wine environment associated with the mime type.
> 
> The gconftool seems to be this tool, but I didn't find a clear way to
> retrieve such information using it. How to use gconftool to get file
> extensions associated to it's mime types and the default action
> associated to a mime type?
> 
> The following command seems not be usefull in a Debian r3.1 with Gnome 2.12.13:
> 
> $ gconftool-2 --dump --recursive-list /schemas | \
> egrep "launcher|application|action|mime|extension"
> 
> Most of the references about the association between an action and a
> mime types point to gnome-vfs, but it's an API and seems to be
> deprecated, despite the fact of  being the nautilus core.
> 
> No command line tool seems to query mime types, file extensions and
> the launch action from a script. In API level, gnome-vfs looks like an
> easy option, but the GConf is claimed to me more powerful and
> flexible, supporting integration with other environments like KDE.
> 
> Can someone point me to a more detailed documentation about mime types
> and GConf (or gconftool) usage or give me some breadcrumb trails?
> 
I think you want to look at the shared-mime-info module in CVS which has
an xml file with mappings between mime types and programs.

Cheers
Kjartan



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On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 15:24 -0300, Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm trying to integrate a mime database with WineTools or Wine itself,
> like CrossOver already does for GNOME, to launch a Linux application
> from the Wine environment associated with the mime type.

If you just want to launch the default app for a file, use
gnome_vfs_url_show(). You could also use lower level APIs like
gnome_vfs_mime_get_default_application_for_uri().

> The gconftool seems to be this tool, but I didn't find a clear way to
> retrieve such information using it. How to use gconftool to get file
> extensions associated to it's mime types and the default action
> associated to a mime type?

gconftool is not involved with the mimetype association.

> Most of the references about the association between an action and a
> mime types point to gnome-vfs, but it's an API and seems to be
> deprecated, despite the fact of  being the nautilus core.

Where did you see gnome-vfs being deprecated?

> No command line tool seems to query mime types, file extensions and
> the launch action from a script. In API level, gnome-vfs looks like an
> easy option, but the GConf is claimed to me more powerful and
> flexible, supporting integration with other environments like KDE.

If you want to do this from a script, you should use gnome-open.

GConf supporting integration with KDE? That sounds very strange. GConf
is the API gnome apps use to store preferences. 

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On 6/21/06, Alexander Larsson <alexl@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 15:24 -0300, Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha wrote:
[cut]
> gconftool is not involved with the mimetype association.

Don't have GConf some things to do with users preferences (like user
settings for
mimetype-application association) and with the default settings on GNOME
system (like default mimetype-application associations)?

[cut]
> Where did you see gnome-vfs being deprecated?

>From "gnome-vfs-mime-database-deprecated"[1], but I was confused with
some posts advising to don't use this part of gnome-vfs API to deal
with mime types. My apologies.
---
[1] http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/gnome-vfs-2.0/gnome-vfs-20-gnome-vfs-mime-database-deprecated.html

[cut]
> GConf supporting integration with KDE? That sounds very strange. GConf
> is the API gnome apps use to store preferences.

Strange or not, I found this:
"GConf does work without GNOME however; it can be used with plain
GTK+, Xlib, KDE, or even text mode applications as well." [2]
---
[2] http://developer.gnome.org/feature/archive/gconf/gconf.html


Many Thanks,
Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha

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On 6/20/06, Kjartan Maraas <kmaraas@broadpark.no> wrote:
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> I think you want to look at the shared-mime-info module in CVS which has
> an xml file with mappings between mime types and programs.

Are you talking about the shared-mime-info code from freedesktop CVS
repository[1] or something in GNOME CVS repository?
---
[1] http://webcvs.freedesktop.org/mime/shared-mime-info/

I didn't find something like shared-mime-info in GNOME CVS repository.


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Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha

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P=C3=A5 Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 11:03:03AM -0300, Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha s=
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> On 6/20/06, Kjartan Maraas <kmaraas@broadpark.no> wrote:
> [cut]
> > I think you want to look at the shared-mime-info module in CVS which has
> > an xml file with mappings between mime types and programs.
>=20
> Are you talking about the shared-mime-info code from freedesktop CVS
> repository[1] or something in GNOME CVS repository?

Gnome uses the shared-mime-info module from freedesktop.org.

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I get a subdirectory libgswitchit when I checkout gnome-applets, yet I 
can't see libgswitchit in http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnome-applets .
Can somebody please educate me on what to look for here to see what 
happens, or point me to somewhere where such wizardry is described ?
CVS just shows :-
cvs server: Updating libgswitchit
with no explanation of anything unusual happening
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> with no explanation of anything unusual happening
It is standard CVS feature, called "virtual modules" (RTFM:). There is
a file CVSROOT/modules (unfortunately not visible in viewcvs web UI)
which contains some extra information about modules. There, you can
ask to add one module as a subdirectory to another modules. In gnome,
libgswitchit (top-level module) is added to gnome-control-center and
gnome-applets.

HTH,

Sergey

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Hi list,

I searched on the web for an GNOME/GTK indentation style and got two basic 
hits:

http://developer.gnome.org/doc/guides/programming-guidelines/code-style.html
and a mailing list message which mentioned that the existing style should be 
preserved.

Are the sample sections provided in .emacs and .vimrc mentioned in the 
'programming guidelines' (URL above) sufficient?  If not, can someone share 
any configuration file (indent.pro, .emacs, .vimrc, anything really) that 
can help set the indentation style for guys who intend to start contributing 
to the project?

thanks,
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On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 13:52 +0200, Étienne Bersac wrote:
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> If you can put those ideas in the wiki
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The wiki is for _you_ to edit. Just register and log in.

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Hello,

> The wiki is for _you_ to edit. Just register and log in.

Don't understand. I create that page. I fill most of it. I just send a
Request For Comment.

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I've just mustered the courage to venture into the wonderful world of
GObject and object oriented C.

I've mostly used two sources:

 - The GObject reference manual:
   http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/gobject/index.html
 - The GObject FAQ:
   http://s1x.homelinux.net/documents/gtk/gobject-faq.html

I'm looking at interfaces and see that they differ in naming (the FAQ is
actually inconsistent in itself).

Questions:
1. Do I need the *_CLASS macros for interfaces? The FAQ defines them
   all but the reference manual doesn't.
2. The macro for getting the interface is called *_GET_IFACE in the FAQ
   and the reference manual uses the longer *_GET_INTERFACE, which one
   should I use?
3. The naming of the "class" of the interface (i.e. the struct that
   inherits from GTypeInterface) is unclear. The FAQ is inconsistent and
   seems to use *Iface in some places and *Class in others. The
   reference manual uses *Interface. Again, which one should I use?

/M

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On Sun, 2006-06-04 at 20:48 -0500, Robin Cook wrote:
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Hello!

I would like to participate in gnome-platform development.I'm not sure i 
have enough skills to do that but anyways i can try.I'd appreciate if 
somebody writes me back.

P.S.
Sorry for the mistakes i could make - english is not my native language

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В Втр, 06/06/2006 в 13:31 +0800, divan пишет:
> Hello!
> 
> I would like to participate in gnome-platform development.I'm not sure i 
> have enough skills to do that but anyways i can try.I'd appreciate if 
> somebody writes me back.
> 
> P.S.
> Sorry for the mistakes i could make - english is not my native language

You are welcome. There is quite informative guide for newbies who want
to participate

http://live.gnome.org/GnomeLove

First of all you need to choose the between cases described there.
Probably you will be also interested in Russian gnome resources: 

web site http://gnome.org.ru
mailing list gnome-cyr@gnome.org
irc channel #gnome-ru on irc.gnome.org


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Hi
I am sorry to be posting this here if it's not the right place, but I
wasn't able to find a specific gnome-terminal list.
It seems as if gnome-terminal 2.6.1 has decided to hold my Page_up and
Page_down keys hostage and it will not release them. In 2.4, I was able
to use the scroll bar by pressing the Shift+Page_up/dn keys. Without
using the shift key, page up/dn would transmit the correct string to my
terminal program. No matter what I try, I can't get that old behavior
back. I need to have pg up and pg dn transmit xterm equivalent strings
again.
Any ideas greatly appreciated and pleas point me to the right place if
this is not it.
TIA
  


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В Срд, 07/06/2006 в 14:38 -0700, Blaine Hulbert пишет:
> Hi
> I am sorry to be posting this here if it's not the right place, but I
> wasn't able to find a specific gnome-terminal list.
> It seems as if gnome-terminal 2.6.1 has decided to hold my Page_up and
> Page_down keys hostage and it will not release them. In 2.4, I was able
> to use the scroll bar by pressing the Shift+Page_up/dn keys. Without
> using the shift key, page up/dn would transmit the correct string to my
> terminal program. No matter what I try, I can't get that old behavior
> back. I need to have pg up and pg dn transmit xterm equivalent strings
> again.
> Any ideas greatly appreciated and pleas point me to the right place if
> this is not it.
> TIA
>   

Dear Blaine

The more appropriate place for reporting bugs is
http://bugzilla.gnome.org, although it's acceptable to ask here.

About your problem itself. The 2.6 version is too old I suppose, there
is already gnome-terminal 2.15. Newer versions work as expected, so an
upgrade should help you.




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Can someone from the system administration team update us on what's
        going on with mailing list archives?  There seems to be very few
        information on:
        
        * How we lost the mailing lists
        * Why have we lost the mailing list archives
        * What is being done currently to restore the mailing list
        archives
        * How do we prevent this from re-occurring      
        
        We have more than 8 years of knowledge and history on those
        mailing list
        archives and it would be a shame if we lost it.  If we have lost
        it,
        maybe we need to also see what else we do not have backups for
        and fix
        the problem.
        
        I'm piping up because there hasn't been anything posted and I
        think some
        of us would like to know what happened.
        
        Thanks,
        sri

-- 
Sri Ramkrishna <sri@aracnet.com>


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søn, 18,.06.2006 kl. 23.22 -0700, skrev Sri Ramkrishna:
> Can someone from the system administration team update us on what's
>         going on with mailing list archives?  There seems to be very few
>         information on:
>         
>         * How we lost the mailing lists

We've been trying to figure out what causes the flow of mail to stop,
but so far I've not found the cause at least. Others have been looking
at it too without success. jrb said he'd look at it today though.

What happens is that messages take longer and longer to be delivered
until it finally just stops sending out list mail. Bugzilla mail seems
to be unaffected and that gives a clue since we've bypassed virus
checking and spamassassin for bugmail IIRC.

So in effect someone has to babysit the services and restart
mailman/postfix every now and then.

>         * Why have we lost the mailing list archives

The mailman install was updated and the new package has the archives in
a different place than the old one it seems. The data is still there.

>         * What is being done currently to restore the mailing list
>         archives
>         * How do we prevent this from re-occurring      
>         
>         We have more than 8 years of knowledge and history on those
>         mailing list
>         archives and it would be a shame if we lost it.  If we have lost
>         it,
>         maybe we need to also see what else we do not have backups for
>         and fix
>         the problem.

As I said, the data is still there, we just need to do some manual
surgery to merge the old archives with what has accumulated since the
upgrade.

Cheers
Kjartan

>         
>         I'm piping up because there hasn't been anything posted and I
>         think some
>         of us would like to know what happened.

Much appreciated. I hope this helps alleviate the need for information
some.

Cheers
Kjartan



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Hi all,

I'm trying to integrate a mime database with WineTools or Wine itself,
like CrossOver already does for GNOME, to launch a Linux application
from the Wine environment associated with the mime type.

The gconftool seems to be this tool, but I didn't find a clear way to
retrieve such information using it. How to use gconftool to get file
extensions associated to it's mime types and the default action
associated to a mime type?

The following command seems not be usefull in a Debian r3.1 with Gnome 2.12.13:

$ gconftool-2 --dump --recursive-list /schemas | \
egrep "launcher|application|action|mime|extension"

Most of the references about the association between an action and a
mime types point to gnome-vfs, but it's an API and seems to be
deprecated, despite the fact of  being the nautilus core.

No command line tool seems to query mime types, file extensions and
the launch action from a script. In API level, gnome-vfs looks like an
easy option, but the GConf is claimed to me more powerful and
flexible, supporting integration with other environments like KDE.

Can someone point me to a more detailed documentation about mime types
and GConf (or gconftool) usage or give me some breadcrumb trails?

Thanks a lot,
Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha

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Hi,

Any plans of adding .ogg support to gnome-sound? Currently, it only 
supports wav.

The API states that "Currently it just wraps the esound daemon, but the 
API is flexible enough that other sound infrastructures can be included in the future."
http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.6/libgnome/libgnome-gnome-sound.html

  - Andreas

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tir, 20,.06.2006 kl. 20.31 +0200, skrev Andreas Røsdal:
> Hi,
> 
> Any plans of adding .ogg support to gnome-sound? Currently, it only 
> supports wav.
> 
> The API states that "Currently it just wraps the esound daemon, but the 
> API is flexible enough that other sound infrastructures can be included in the future."
> http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.6/libgnome/libgnome-gnome-sound.html
> 
There's a bug for this:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94615

Cheers
Kjartan



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tir, 20,.06.2006 kl. 15.24 -0300, skrev Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm trying to integrate a mime database with WineTools or Wine itself,
> like CrossOver already does for GNOME, to launch a Linux application
> from the Wine environment associated with the mime type.
> 
> The gconftool seems to be this tool, but I didn't find a clear way to
> retrieve such information using it. How to use gconftool to get file
> extensions associated to it's mime types and the default action
> associated to a mime type?
> 
> The following command seems not be usefull in a Debian r3.1 with Gnome 2.12.13:
> 
> $ gconftool-2 --dump --recursive-list /schemas | \
> egrep "launcher|application|action|mime|extension"
> 
> Most of the references about the association between an action and a
> mime types point to gnome-vfs, but it's an API and seems to be
> deprecated, despite the fact of  being the nautilus core.
> 
> No command line tool seems to query mime types, file extensions and
> the launch action from a script. In API level, gnome-vfs looks like an
> easy option, but the GConf is claimed to me more powerful and
> flexible, supporting integration with other environments like KDE.
> 
> Can someone point me to a more detailed documentation about mime types
> and GConf (or gconftool) usage or give me some breadcrumb trails?
> 
I think you want to look at the shared-mime-info module in CVS which has
an xml file with mappings between mime types and programs.

Cheers
Kjartan



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On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 15:24 -0300, Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm trying to integrate a mime database with WineTools or Wine itself,
> like CrossOver already does for GNOME, to launch a Linux application
> from the Wine environment associated with the mime type.

If you just want to launch the default app for a file, use
gnome_vfs_url_show(). You could also use lower level APIs like
gnome_vfs_mime_get_default_application_for_uri().

> The gconftool seems to be this tool, but I didn't find a clear way to
> retrieve such information using it. How to use gconftool to get file
> extensions associated to it's mime types and the default action
> associated to a mime type?

gconftool is not involved with the mimetype association.

> Most of the references about the association between an action and a
> mime types point to gnome-vfs, but it's an API and seems to be
> deprecated, despite the fact of  being the nautilus core.

Where did you see gnome-vfs being deprecated?

> No command line tool seems to query mime types, file extensions and
> the launch action from a script. In API level, gnome-vfs looks like an
> easy option, but the GConf is claimed to me more powerful and
> flexible, supporting integration with other environments like KDE.

If you want to do this from a script, you should use gnome-open.

GConf supporting integration with KDE? That sounds very strange. GConf
is the API gnome apps use to store preferences. 

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On 6/21/06, Alexander Larsson <alexl@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 15:24 -0300, Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha wrote:
[cut]
> gconftool is not involved with the mimetype association.

Don't have GConf some things to do with users preferences (like user
settings for
mimetype-application association) and with the default settings on GNOME
system (like default mimetype-application associations)?

[cut]
> Where did you see gnome-vfs being deprecated?

>From "gnome-vfs-mime-database-deprecated"[1], but I was confused with
some posts advising to don't use this part of gnome-vfs API to deal
with mime types. My apologies.
---
[1] http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/gnome-vfs-2.0/gnome-vfs-20-gnome-vfs-mime-database-deprecated.html

[cut]
> GConf supporting integration with KDE? That sounds very strange. GConf
> is the API gnome apps use to store preferences.

Strange or not, I found this:
"GConf does work without GNOME however; it can be used with plain
GTK+, Xlib, KDE, or even text mode applications as well." [2]
---
[2] http://developer.gnome.org/feature/archive/gconf/gconf.html


Many Thanks,
Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha

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> I think you want to look at the shared-mime-info module in CVS which has
> an xml file with mappings between mime types and programs.

Are you talking about the shared-mime-info code from freedesktop CVS
repository[1] or something in GNOME CVS repository?
---
[1] http://webcvs.freedesktop.org/mime/shared-mime-info/

I didn't find something like shared-mime-info in GNOME CVS repository.


Regards,
Augusto Arcoverde da Rocha

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> On 6/20/06, Kjartan Maraas <kmaraas@broadpark.no> wrote:
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> > I think you want to look at the shared-mime-info module in CVS which has
> > an xml file with mappings between mime types and programs.
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> Are you talking about the shared-mime-info code from freedesktop CVS
> repository[1] or something in GNOME CVS repository?

Gnome uses the shared-mime-info module from freedesktop.org.

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I get a subdirectory libgswitchit when I checkout gnome-applets, yet I 
can't see libgswitchit in http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnome-applets .
Can somebody please educate me on what to look for here to see what 
happens, or point me to somewhere where such wizardry is described ?
CVS just shows :-
cvs server: Updating libgswitchit
with no explanation of anything unusual happening
thanks
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> with no explanation of anything unusual happening
It is standard CVS feature, called "virtual modules" (RTFM:). There is
a file CVSROOT/modules (unfortunately not visible in viewcvs web UI)
which contains some extra information about modules. There, you can
ask to add one module as a subdirectory to another modules. In gnome,
libgswitchit (top-level module) is added to gnome-control-center and
gnome-applets.

HTH,

Sergey

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Hi list,

I searched on the web for an GNOME/GTK indentation style and got two basic 
hits:

http://developer.gnome.org/doc/guides/programming-guidelines/code-style.html
and a mailing list message which mentioned that the existing style should be 
preserved.

Are the sample sections provided in .emacs and .vimrc mentioned in the 
'programming guidelines' (URL above) sufficient?  If not, can someone share 
any configuration file (indent.pro, .emacs, .vimrc, anything really) that 
can help set the indentation style for guys who intend to start contributing 
to the project?

thanks,
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Hello Rajput

> Are the sample sections provided in .emacs and .vimrc mentioned in the
> 'programming guidelines' (URL above) sufficient?  If not, can someone share
> any configuration file (indent.pro, .emacs, .vimrc, anything really) that
> can help set the indentation style for guys who intend to start contributing
> to the project?
I use this: http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/libgswitchit/.indent.pro?rev=1.1&view=markup

HTH,

Sergey