Re: [gnome-flashback] What to do about gnome-panel in 3.8 ?

[Dmitry Shachnev <mitya57 ubuntu com>]

Hi Philipp,

On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Philipp Kaluza <floss ghostroute eu> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Gnome 3.8 is just around the corner, and we kinda dropped the ball on
> getting up and running in time. I am partially to blame for this, as I
> initially didn't push hard enough on the naming discussion, and then had
> more trouble to get jhbuild into a good place than in earlier cycles -
> related to trying to get the new code running with my old (wheezy)
> system-wide ConsoleKit.
>
> As it currently stands, I assume the release notes will talk about the
> deprecation and removal of Fallback mode. If we want to change that
> message, we should act now. Review https://live.gnome.org/GnomeFlashback
> , contact the release team about a little shout-out in the release
> notes, and roll 3.8 tarballs.

As gnome-panel is no longer part of official GNOME releases, we can
build and upload new tarballs whenever we want without breaking any
freezes (AFAIK).

It will be very good to have Gnome Flashback mentioned in the release
notes, of course.

> Related to the last part: I've been playing a bit further with
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=694625 . By explicitly
> mix&matching Gnome components to match with the system components in
> Debian Wheezy, I've been able to get a session started with the provided
> patch (only having gnome-session load component "nautilus" instead of
> "nautilus-classic"). I'd much rather like to test / have somebody test a
> full jhbuild against a current set of system components. If anybody
> could test this or point me in the right direction (e.g. "Arch linux
> release X has current stuff OOTB, just install dev packages a, b and z
> and jhbuild."), I'd appreciate it. As is, I _could_ see us releasing the
> patch and declaring the Flashback session definition a "technology
> preview" or similar, if we have consensus that this communication
> strategy should lead to more good than bad, and less general
> misunderstandings, rather than more. Either way, I see us dealing with
> bugfixes well after 3.8.1, but I think that's worth it.

While we are at it, I think it'll be a good idea to start the “new
life” of gnome-panel by incorporating Debian patches [1]. Most of them
seem applicable upstream, including the recently added
18_fix_force_quit_applet.patch. What do you think?

[1]: http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-gnome/desktop/unstable/gnome-panel/debian/patches/

> (Oh and yes, this would break a ton of gnome freezes, but I guess that's
> better than not being part of the upstream release at all.)
>
> What does everybody think ? Please reply also if you only have a quick
> answer for one of my questions, as I really think we should get the
> communication going again ASAP.

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Dmitry Shachnev