Re: Daemons [Was: gob inside gnome-vfs ...]
- From: Sander Vesik <Sander Vesik Sun COM>
- To: Michael Meeks <michael ximian com>
- Cc: Seth Nickell <snickell stanford edu>, gnome-hackers gnome org
- Subject: Re: Daemons [Was: gob inside gnome-vfs ...]
- Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 18:54:05 +0100 (BST)
On 26 Jun 2002, Michael Meeks wrote:
> Hi Seth,
>
> On Wed, 2002-06-26 at 01:37, Seth Nickell wrote:
> > > They're a bit of a pain from an administrative and support perspective,
> > > things like oafd/bonobo processes lying around (Michael says the b-a one
> > > cane be fixed now, with some careful thought), gconfd versions,
> > > gnome-settings-daemon running or not, etc.
>
> They shouldn't lie around, so ...
>
> > I would propose we create a single super-daemon which you can write
> > "plugins" for (that run in their own threads).
>
> Sigh - this is really not going to work nicely - especially since you
> almost always want to use CORBA to communicate with the daemon - and
> that's not going to like threads.
>
Huh? There is no inherent conflict between corba and threads. Gnome needs
to come out of the dark ages and get to the point where it "just" supports
threads anyways.
> Also, it would seem to make no sense to glub together a gnome-vfs
> daemon, the gconf daemon, the a11y daemon and bonobo-activation (eg.)
>
> I think it's probably better to make bonobo-activation more intelligent
> with respect to daemons & displays [ a <daemon> tag in the .server file
> ? ] - and allow it to fork / reap daemons as the desktop starts / exits
> etc.
>
> I don't think there is really a problem with lots of small daemon
> processes, as long as they all go away cleanly - especially if they have
> distinct roles. The stability argument alone is quite telling I think.
>
I think you just forgot to multiply it by 50 or 100 for midsized multiuser
machines. Why introduce a lot of daemons that most of the time are of
little use to the user?
> Regards,
>
> Michael.
>
> --
> mmeeks gnu org <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot
>
Sander
you'll rescue me right?
in the exact same way that they never did
i'll be happy right?
when your healing powers kick in
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