Re: houston, we have a problem- 2.10 showstoppers

[Jim Gettys <Jim Gettys hp com>]

And note that good old xterm has active maintenance and development
(Thomas Dickey).  For all its warts and non-hig-complying problems,
there is an alternative that is very solid in the way of general
terminal emulation.  It is far from clear to me that vte needs more than
typical maintenance, lacking someone with the interest and drive to make
it "the worlds best" terminal emulator...
				- Jim

On Mon, 2005-02-28 at 12:31 -0500, Havoc Pennington wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-02-28 at 23:17 +0700, Ross Golder wrote:
> > On Mon, 2005-02-28 at 10:43 -0500, Luis Villa wrote:
> > >122150 	gnome-termnal 2.4.0.1 won't "redraw" text lines properly-
> > >redrawing is broken and has been for a long time. Given that vte is
> > >defacto unmaintained, and there is a patch that has been tested for a
> > >while now in gentoo, this just needs someone to commit and roll a new
> > >tarball.
> > >
> > 
> > Perhaps you could give 'vte' a mention on gnome-love as a project
> > needing a maintainer? A terminal emulation widget sounds like a pretty
> > cool bit of software to work on to me. I love terminals and terminal
> > emulation. If I had enough time, I'd take it on myself. There's bound to
> > be other people out there that are into terminal emulators that are
> > willing to check in a few patches and roll the odd tarball every now and
> > then.
> > 
> 
> Keep in mind that VTE could be a _lot_ worse. It basically works and
> doesn't distract any of the OS vendors by making them _have_ to spend a
> lot of time on it right now. i.e. it doesn't have showstoppers. Lots of
> stuff that could be improved sure, but not showstoppers (other than
> perhaps the 1 that's on the list).
> 
> So any J Random Enthusiastic Person may not be a plus. Getting some
> basic patch review on the patches that really matter, we should
> definitely support someone who wanted to do that. But it's really easy
> to take a terminal codebase off into the land of incredibly bad ideas if
> you don't know what you're doing.
> 
> Just a bit of caution. I think it's easy to assume that every codebase
> needs to be "moving forward" and I'm saying there is a legitimate case
> for "maintenance mode" when other stuff is higher priority. As soon as
> you touch something, it becomes a bit of a timesink because you're
> creating new bugs and behaviors.
> 
> Of course, if we do get J Random Enthusiastic and they do screw up we
> can always ship an old release tag of VTE, so I guess there's no genuine
> danger other than hurt feelings.
> 
> Havoc
> 
> 
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