Re: Should we really translate legal notices?

[Gabor Kelemen <kelemeng gnome hu>]

2010-06-09 05:13 keltezéssel, Luis Villa írta:
> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Luis Villa<luis tieguy org>  wrote:
>    
> > I will look into this; thank you for bringing it up.
> >      
> My apologies for taking so long. After some thought, what I and our
> counsel would recommend from a legal perspective, at least for (L)GPL
> apps, is giving the following text twice, once in English and the
> other in the translated language:
>
>    

Could you please elaborate on why is it necessary to have this short 
notice in two languages?
I can not imagine why and how would be this good, I never saw anything 
like that - but this is probably just me being young and inexperienced 
:). Adding redundancy here does not seem to be useful...

Regards
Gabor Kelemen
> "<program name>  Copyright (C)<year>   <name of author>
> This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. The program is free
> software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain
> conditions. Click here for details. [link to license]"
>
> If the translated license exists on the FSF website, then 'link to
> license' should point at that. Translators should not translate the
> full license themselves- if they want to translate it, they should
> talk to the FSF and work with them to create an official translation.
> If there is no translated license, then the license link should be to
> the English license.
>
> I definitely recommend doing this through the toolkit so that the text
> remains consistent throughout the platform.
>
> Let me know if this makes sense or needs clarification-
> Luis
>
>    
> > Luis
> >
> > On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:41 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka
> > <ihar hrachyshka gmail com>  wrote:
> >      
> > > Hello!
> > >
> > > I'd like to raise a question which was already discussed in gnome-i18n
> > > with no end result [1] in legal-list gnome org hence this email.
> > >
> > > Recently one of Gnome localizers, Andika Triwidada, asked in gnome-i18n
> > > if we should really translate legal notices found in Gnome software
> > > translation catalogues. He stated that there is a policy for this in
> > > Fedora Project [2] which states that asks translators not to translate
> > > legal notices since such translations are risky if not approved by
> > > professional lawyers (which is of course not the case for 99% of Gnome
> > > translations).
> > >
> > > Localization participants tried to find any related policy on Gnome Wiki
> > > pages with no success. Some translators stated that they translate
> > > everything put in translation catalogues, legal notices included.
> > >
> > > It would be great if Gnome legal experts will discuss this problem in
> > > more detail and end up with final policy for translators.
> > >
> > > Below are some examples of such translation messages. They are quite
> > > common in Gnome applications translation catalogues.
> > >
> > > #: ../src/brasero-app.c:1153
> > > msgid ""
> > > "Brasero is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the"
> > > "terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software"
> > > "Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or (at your option) any later"
> > > "version."
> > > msgstr ""
> > >
> > > #: ../src/brasero-app.c:1158
> > > msgid ""
> > > "Brasero is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY"
> > > "WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS"
> > > "FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the GNU General Public License for more"
> > > "details."
> > > msgstr ""
> > >
> > > #: ../src/brasero-app.c:1163
> > > msgid ""
> > > "You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License along with"
> > > "Brasero; if not, write to the Free Software Foundation, Inc., 51 Franklin"
> > > "Street, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA 02110-1301, USA"
> > > msgstr ""
> > >
> > > [1]: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-i18n/2010-April/msg00193.html
> > > [2]:
> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/FAQ#Should_I_translate_legal_notices.3F
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > legal-list mailing list
> > > legal-list gnome org
> > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/legal-list
> > >
> > >        
> >      
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