Re: Date Format with month names in genitive case - your opinions?
- From: Petr Kovar <pmkovar gnome org>
- To: Rafal Luzynski <digitalfreak lingonborough com>
- Cc: GNOME i18n list <gnome-i18n gnome org>, Diskuze o lokalizaci open source do češtiny <diskuze lists l10n cz>
- Subject: Re: Date Format with month names in genitive case - your opinions?
- Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 22:54:52 +0100
On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 00:10:28 +0100 (CET)
Rafal Luzynski <digitalfreak lingonborough com> wrote:
Hello,
I'm reviving this old thread. [1] As my work on the glibc patches
is over and I'm going to apply them on Monday [2] I'd like to hear
your final opinion about importing the locale data for your languages.
Please note that there will be no visible changes in the locales
if the locale data are not changed. So far I have only one 100% positive
opinion from the Polish translator (thank you Piotr) and some attention
from Greek, [3] Serbian, [4] and Scottish Gaelic [5] translators.
Here is the list of languages from which I'd like to hear the opinion
whether to update the locale data now:
Armenian, Asturian, Belarusian, Catalan, Croatian, Czech, Farsi,
Finnish, Greek, Kashubian, Lithuanian, Ossetian, Russian, Scottish Gaelic,
Silesian, Slovak, Sorbian (Upper and Lower), Ukrainian, Walloon.
For those languages which are updated the currently used "%B" and
"%b" format specifiers will automatically start displaying the
genitive case which is usually correct. There are however some
applications (e.g., calendars) which need the nominative case.
In those applications the developers and translators would have
to change it to "%OB" and "%Ob", respectively.
In case of Finnish the answer is probably "no" because their
system of generating the genitive case is simple and they have already
fixed this.
In case of Czech, Serbian and (probably) Slovak the case is controversial.
As far as I was told, in those languages the nominative case is used
normally in dates unless whole date is in a genitive case. However,
Not sure who provided you with this information, but for Czech, this is not
quite true. While using nominative for %B is not exactly incorrect (so the
current implementation can be seen as acceptable), being able to use
genitive for %B would allow us to provide a translation that sounds more
natural.
However, changing anything in glibc is very tricky so I won't vote
for this change without hearing what other Czech translators think. I
think other language groups might share the same sentiment, actually.
In any case, CC'ing the Czech translation community list to spread the
news about this.
Thanks for your work, Rafal.
Best,
pk
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