RE: "proprietary" vs. polluting (was Re: propriatary question)

["Fox, Kevin M" <KMFox mail bhi-erc com>]

Point, and No point.... :)

What happens if, hmm.. lets say star office, wants to create a program...

they want one desktop file

lets call it office.desktop. (who cares about the real name)

where should they put it?   with kde?   with gnome?  with enlightenment?
With what?

the resason you gave for putting them in the gnome directory is because you
do not wish to force order on others. BUT, that is not exactly correct. The
user can choose to order them how ever he/she sees fit. so, in effect, there
are no limitations on order. Besides, even when gnome programs add there own
desktops they choose where to put them... it is up to the programmer of the
program and the end user to deside where they go... rewriting a program to
scan in gnomes directory, enlightenments directory, kde's and what have you
are just abunch more code. it is really unnessisary and burdunsome on the
packager.

The idea is to allow the user to deside (they can just reorder the desktop
files in /usr/share/apps if they dont like to ordering) and the programmer
to only have to wory about throwing there desktop file in one place for all
environments /usr/share/apps

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Gleef [SMTP:gleef@capital.net]
> Sent:	Friday, April 02, 1999 1:22 PM
> To:	Fox, Kevin M
> Subject:	RE: "proprietary" vs. polluting (was Re: propriatary
> question) 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Fox, Kevin M wrote:
> > I am hoping in the future to have KDE read desktop files (they are like
> the
> > same as .kde so it wouldnt be hard) ... then gnome, enlightenment, kde
> and
> > whatever can read the same files in the same place. A standard if you
> > will....
> > 
> > /usr/share/apps
> > 
> > to say that a .desktop file is a gnome file is not true...
> > enlightenment != gnome but enlightenment can read .desktop files as
> well....
> > 
> > if you want every program to produce .desktop files, you should have to
> > produce them only once.
> > Programmers have a hard enough time producing 1 desktop file, let alone
> .kde
> > files, and what have you... 1 file is all that is nessisary.
> > 
> > "being polite and clean" in this case means to have kde files, gnome
> files,
> > enlightenment files, afterstep files, window maker files, black box
> files
> > ........ you see where I am going.... Sharing this information between
> all
> > programs saves everyone alot of work :)
> 
> The trouble is that GNOME's apps directory doesn't just contain the
> .desktop files, but it organizes them as well.  I think it would be a good
> thing if as many environments as possible can use the same format of
> .desktop files, but I don't think we should force each environment to
> accept how we organize them.  This would mean that we need to keep our
> .desktop files out of the way, directory structure wise.
> "$prefix/share/gnome/apps" seems like a good way of doing this.
> 
> A non-GNOME but GNOME aware program could fairly easily locate such a
> directory, and extract .desktop files for its own use, and organize
> them how it wishes.  GNOME can do likewise with other programs.  Yes, we
> should all share information, but that doesn't mean we should share
> namespace as well.
> 
> -Gleef
> 
> 
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