RE: "proprietary" vs. polluting (was Re: propriatary question)

[bob kehs ksd org]

well, if you want to make shure that the gnome name space is seperate for
others you just use 
/opt/gnome as your prefix, thus making
/opt/gnome/share/apps

if you want to use /usr, you get
/usr/share/apps

so that allows for the user to choose whether there is a common set of
desktops.

using prefix/share/gnome/apps
for /usr it becomes
/usr/share/gnome/apps thus not allowing for shareing 

and 

for /opt/gnome you get
/opt/gnome/share/gnome/apps

so puting it in prefix/share/gnome/apps dosnt allow the user to choose
between shared and nonshared

On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Gleef wrote:

> 
> On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Tuomas J. Lukka wrote:
> > On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Gleef wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Fox, Kevin M wrote:
> > > > Point, and No point.... :)
> > > > 
> > > > What happens if, hmm.. lets say star office, wants to create a program...
> > > > 
> > > > they want one desktop file
> > > > 
> > > > lets call it office.desktop. (who cares about the real name)
> > > > 
> > > > where should they put it?   with kde?   with gnome?  with enlightenment?
> > > > With what?
> > > 
> > > They have three choices (that I can see):
> > > 
> > >   * They can put it in their own directory, and count on whatever
> > >     desktop/user to use it however they want, the office program isn't
> > >     going to worry about it.
> > > 
> > >   * They can ask the user where to put it at install time.  
> > > 
> > >   * They can attempt to autodetect the existance of the environments
> > >     they want to actively support, and put them in the approprate
> > >     places for the detected environemtns.
> > 
> > No, none of these are *really* satisfactory. What Gnome should do is
> > to actively look at the /usr/share stuff for KDE and all other
> > possibilities and prompt the user if it sees something new has been
> > installed there at next startup (or a explicit reload command).
> 
> That's one of the things I was suggesting in the first option.  The
> desktop can worry about it.  Currently, GNOME doesn't do this, but it can.
> I might start working on something to do this, if nobody does it first.
> 
> 
> > Not having icons come automatically for apps was one of the major
> > concerns of a reviewer and you can understand that - when someone
> > is not familiar with the computer, how are they supposed to know
> > how to put them there? They should just work.
> 
> Keep in mind that I was arguing against the point raised that we should
> keep all our .desktop files in "/usr/share/apps".  Keep in mind that many
> (perhaps most) GNOME installations don't have "/usr" as a prefix.  Many
> use "/usr/local" (the default for tarballs), "/opt/gnome", "/usr/gnome",
> "/home/gnome", "~/gnome" or whatever crossed their mind at the time as
> the right place for it to go on their system. 
> 
> Even if GNOME changes back to using "$prefix/share/apps" for its desktop
> files, any developer that assumes that "/usr/share/apps" would be the
> right place to put their stuff would be in for a rude awakening.
> 
> -Gleef
> 
> 
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