Re: Netscape and Gnome

[Erik Bagfors <bagfors hpc2n umu se>]

> 
> 
> On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 mark@hoist.nlcomm.com wrote:
> 
> > 
> > You're probably swapping.  Gnome is nice, but at this point it is
> > an incredible memory hog... it drives me nuts on my machine with
> > 90 megs of RAM; I can't imagine the pain of running it with 16 megs.
> > 
> > There is a Linux utility, "top" that will tell you what is happening
> > with your memory usage - in particular how much swap and real memory
> > are in use.  Try running this in an xterm while you start up these
> > programs and you'll get a feel for what's going on.
> > 
> > Note: the only worse memory hog than Gnome is Netscape - NS is
> > efficient at first but it has had a memory leak for years... it
> > keeps growing and growing...
> 
> FYI, I thought it may be helpful to include my own top info. Sorted by
> memory, it speaks for itself:
> 
>   9:05pm  up 2 days,  8:08,  1 user,  load average: 0.28, 0.12, 0.03
> 52 processes: 51 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
> CPU states:  2.6% user,  3.0% system,  0.0% nice, 94.5% idle
> Mem:   63448K av,  60056K used,   3392K free,  23212K shrd,   1332K buff
> Swap: 128988K av,  24312K used, 104676K free                 17476K cached
> 
>   PID USER     PRI  NI  SIZE  RSS SHARE STAT  LIB %CPU %MEM   TIME COMMAND
>   540 root       4   0 35828  26M  4288 S       0  2.1 42.1  27:05 X
>  5425 jg         0   0 10968 8984  3304 S       0  0.0 14.1   0:54
> netscape
>   572 jg         0   0  3552 3212  1404 S       0  0.0  5.0   0:45 panel
>  5987 jg         2   0  1960 1960  1296 S       0  0.4  3.0   0:03 Eterm
>  5985 gnome      0   0  1936 1936  1372 S       0  0.0  3.0   0:00 pine
>  5893 jg         0   0  1812 1812  1224 S       0  0.0  2.8   0:03 Eterm
>   590 jg         0   0  2092 1624  1112 S       0  0.0  2.5   0:44
> gnomepager_a
>   543 root       0   0  1596 1520   496 S       0  0.0  2.3   0:17 xfstt
>   553 jg         0   0  2184 1412   716 S       0  0.0  2.2   1:16
> enlightenmen
>   584 jg         0   0  1572 1176   960 S       0  0.0  1.8   0:02
> modemlights_
>  4165 jg         0   0  1424  988   156 S       0  0.0  1.5   0:22 Eterm
>   576 jg         0   0  1792  944   308 S       0  0.0  1.4   0:04 gmc
> 
> 
> That's running three e-terms plus netscape, CDplayer applet (idle) and
> Gnome Pager, and digital clock.
> 
> X and the panel are hogs.


This is fun.  On my system (sorted by RSS).

  PID USER     PRI  NI  SIZE  RSS SHARE STAT  LIB %CPU %MEM   TIME COMMAND
  319 root      15   0 14068  12M  1068 S       0  1.2 19.5  63:10 XF86_SVGA
 1467 zindar     0   0 13208  10M  3172 S       0  0.0 17.2   0:50 netscape
 1970 zindar     0   0  3156 2868  1984 S       0  0.0  4.5   0:01 lt-testgtk
 1965 root       0   0  2412 2412  1448 S       0  0.0  3.8   0:00 xterm
 2089 root      17   0  2384 2384  1440 S       0 35.0  3.7   0:08 xterm
 2096 root       0   0  1896 1896  1444 S       0  0.0  2.9   0:00 xterm
 1966 zindar     0   0  1348 1348   980 S       0  0.0  2.1   0:00 bash
 2097 zindar     0   0  1276 1276   952 S       0  0.0  2.0   0:00 bash
 2090 zindar     0   0  1272 1272   948 S       0  0.0  2.0   0:00 bash
  416 zindar     1   0  1508 1164   772 S       0  0.0  1.8   0:13 gnomepager_a
 2093 zindar     4   0  1124 1124   896 R       0  0.3  1.7   0:03 top
  368 zindar     2   0  1308 1080   632 S       0  0.1  1.7   0:12 enlightenmen
  402 zindar     0   0  1516 1036   600 S       0  0.0  1.6   0:01 panel
 1489 root       0   0  1144  936   680 S       0  0.0  1.4   0:00 xterm
 1511 root       0   0  1868  928   684 S       0  0.0  1.4   0:04 xterm
 2105 zindar     0   0   880  880   712 S       0  0.0  1.3   0:00 vi
  420 zindar     0   0  1212  828   588 S       0  0.0  1.3   0:01 mini_command
 1418 zindar     0   0   912  780   572 S       0  0.0  1.2   0:00 bash
  335 zindar     0   0  1032  736   484 S       0  0.0  1.1   0:01 gnome-sessio
  422 zindar     1   0  1108  720   516 S       0  0.2  1.1   0:39 diskusage_ap
 1415 root       0   0  1372  700   424 S       0  0.0  1.1   0:02 xterm
  413 zindar     0   0  1052  676   484 S       0  0.0  1.0   0:00 gen_util_app
  418 zindar     0   0  1204  672   428 S       0  0.0  1.0   0:00 quicklaunch_
 1490 zindar     0   0   780  640   424 S       0  0.0  1.0   0:00 bash
 1433 zindar     1   0   860  576   260 S       0  0.0  0.9   0:01 Eterm
  366 zindar     0   0   772  544   360 S       0  0.0  0.8   0:01 gnome-smprox
 1686 root       0   0   840  544   364 S       0  0.0  0.8   0:00 xterm
 1704 zindar     0   0   924  492   372 S       0  0.0  0.7   0:00 session-prop

If you remove the shared memory from the panel memory usage (to get memory 
used uniquely by the panel) it only takes 436kb..(on your system that's 
1808kb) you call that a memory hog?

There has also been lot's of complaining about the pager.  It's not bad on my 
system either.

/Erik

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