RE: GMC feedback / comments

["Fox, Kevin M" <KMFox mail bhi-erc com>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Ronald de Man [SMTP:deman@win.tue.nl]
> Sent:	Thursday, March 04, 1999 2:55 PM
> To:	gnome-list@gnome.org
> Subject:	Re: GMC feedback / comments
> 
> On Thu, Mar 04, 1999 at 11:09:49PM +0100, Georg C. F. Greve wrote:
> >  || On 4 Mar 1999 21:42:38 +0100
> >  || deman@win.tue.nl (Ronald de Man) wrote: 
> > 
> >  rdm> Accidentally dragging & dropping from one gmc window to the other
> also moves
> >  rdm> the file, so is equally dangerous.
> > 
> > Not really. It is the default behaviour with all desktop environments
> > that icons are just a link by default. So if one accidentally drags
> > some file on his/her desktop he will just delete it assuming he'll
> > just delete the link/icon because that's the way it works with all the 
> > other desktop environments.
> 
> Are you sure? Also with Windows 95? I'm pretty sure that today at work
> I moved some documents from a folder onto the desktop and that these
> were no shortcuts, the documents were really removed from the folder.
> 
	[Fox, Kevin M]  I here by request we never call a directory a
folder.:)

> > 
> > It is good to be able to choose from different actions but the
> > default action should definitely be a link because it is much safer
> > for the data.
> > 
> > Apart from that if one wants to create executables on the desktop gmc
> > will complain because they are owned by root and naturally the user
> > doesn't have permission to delete them (which is essentially what a
> > move would result in).
> 
> True. In this case linking is more natural. And inconsistent dragging
> behaviour depending on the type of file is probably not what we want.
> So maybe I should agree with you.
> 
	[Fox, Kevin M]  Most of the time I copy from place to place. I think
the default would best be copy. And then be able to set the default.

> > 
> > It would be considerable to have a kind of wrapping script in your
> > desktop directory that does the actual starting of the program, too.
> > 
> >  rdm> Do you mean adding mime-types and corresponding applications?
> (I've used
> >  rdm> KDE for some time, but I'm not really sure about those templates
> anymore.)
> >  rdm> Being able to add mime-types and actions within gmc is certainly
> something
> >  rdm> that's needed (or is it there somewhere and I just can't find
> it?).
> > 
> > They got stuff like "folder" "program" "file" "device" and such (it's
> > been a while since I used it). You copy it (which would be the second
> > best choice for  drag and drop, by the way) and then you modify the
> > template.
> 
> A drag and drop from a flopppy to the desktop should (and probably is,
> I haven't tried it yet) be a copy. So it's pretty much impossible to have
> really consistent behaviour.
> 
> Removable media       -> copy
> User files            -> move
> System files/programs -> link
> 
> But I don't dare asking for this :)
> 
> 
> > 
> > If it would be added to the right button menu you could click on your
> > desktop, select a program, get a "program" template, select it's
> > properties and then enter the program with it's parameters... 
> 
> I vaguely remember this, but still only vaguely. Maybe I didn't really
> get it when I tried it out.
> 
> > 
> >  >> O.k. - that's what immediately crossed my mind when using it,
> >  rdm> The built-in viewer of text files has some scrolling bugs. Moving
> the
> >  rdm> scrollbar gives a very shaky effect, and using the little arrows
> does
> > 
> > Oh - this reminded me. That scrolling only works on Mondays when the
> > sun shines. .-)
> > 
> >  rdm> not have a real effect (it moves but moves right back). I've tried
> to
> >  rdm> fix this, but have not yet succeeded. One of the problems is that
> >  rdm> GtkAdjustment is a bit inconsistent (when the scrollbar is at the
> >  rdm> bottom, and you click the down arrow, the GtkAdjustment value
> decreases
> >  rdm> and the view scrolls one line up).
> > 
> > I know. I am having some trouble with the GtkAdjustment on a GtkText
> > widget in the Xlogmaster, too.
> 
> The scrollbar in the directory tree window of gmc doesn't seem to suffer
> from this problem. I haven't looked yet at how scrolling is handled there.
> 
> Ronald
> 
> 
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