Re: GNOME on Ice (the point behind my insult)

["Ben FrantzDale" <frantb rpi edu>]

Kevin Atkinson wrote on 10/17/99 4:48 am:

>Elliot Lee wrote:
>> 
>> On Sat, 16 Oct 1999, Kevin 
>Atkinson wrote:
>> 
>> > Here is a nice article on 
>using the IceWM with 
>GNOME:
>> >   
>http://www.linuxpower.com/
>display_item.phtml?id=140
>> >
>> > Truefully I don't know 
>why you gnome and RedHat 
>folks like that slow
>> > Enlightenment so much.
>> 
>> Stereotyping is the 
>straightest path to a toasty 
>flame:)  the panel does) but 
>works.
>
>Here is the point I was trying 
>to get at.  Enlightenment is 
>an OVERKILL as the default 
>window manager.  The 
>gnome project needs to 
>chose some other lighter 
>weight window manager to 
>use as the default one to 
>recommend and to 
>distribute with the Gnome 
>releases.  I know you hacker 
>folks like Enlightenment 
>because you can configure it 
>to do anything you want.  
>However the GNOME project 
>is not about being able to 
>rampantly customize 
>things--it is about ease of 
>use.  Most end users, such as 
>myself, want a window 
>manager that works and 
>doesn't hog resources. 
>Enlightenment is not it.  
>Icewm is.  I therefor thing 
>that you guys (and girls) 
>should seriously consider 
>using Icewm or some other 
>light weight window manager 
>as the recommended 
>default.  With Icewm the 
>gnome desktop seams a lot 
>faster.  Thus having a 
>window manager like Icewm 
>as a default gives the gnome 
>project a better image.
>
>Now if people want to go off 
>in the deep end over a minor 
>insult and/or  
>stereotyping--that is not 
>my problem.

As an E user I agree. Gnome would be/is more user friendly/faster if it's run with a more intigrated/lighter weight WM. At the moment, it looks as though Sawmill is this WM.

[the following is not intended as flame bait]
In defense of E, E's goal differs from that of Gnome. E may slow Gnome down, but the reverse is also true.

Calling E overkill for just providing windw borders is silly. Saying it's not the best suted WM for gnome is not.

--Ben