Re: gtkhtml

[TimO <hairballmt mcn net>]

And I for one, thank you, Steve.  I have really begin to wonder where
the goal went from "GNOME apps should run on any platform with possible
reduced functionality" to 'GNOME/GTK apps will run on any platform that has
the complete GNOME distribution installed'.??  It seems that more and more
Gtkappnames are becoming in actuality GNOMEappname.  GTK != GNOME.  At the
very least it could be a config option.


Steven Kordik wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:30:04 +0200, Christian Schaller said:
> 
> > Ok,
> >  Things like this really bugs me, how many machines out there have
> >  gdkpixbuf and
> >  libart installed, but not gnome-libs? Very, very few is my estimate.
> 
> gdk-pixbuf is being rolled into Gtk 1.4 (as it should be) and lib-art is
> available as a seperate entity.  No GNOME required for either of them.
> 
> >  Of all potential and current CSC/Pronto users how many of them will
> >  use GNOME
> >  or have GNOME installed? A very large perctange is my estimate.
> 
> Very few is my estimate (based on discussions with my users on
> cscmail-user@lists.sourceforge.net)
> 
> >  In other words, all the that this really brings is getting 95% of the
> >  CSCMail/Pronto's userbase to waste their diskspace in order to
> >  statisfy some
> >  weird phobia against libs with the name GNOME in them for the last 5%.
> >  Fantastic.
> 
> No, actually, 95% of my users consider GNOME a waste of disk space, and
> so refuse to install GtkHTML.  These users have then had to suffer with
> the lesser widget "XmHTML" which as we all know is dead.  I support it
> anyway to keep my non-GNOME using users happy.   Now, they get all the
> benefits (and then some) of GtkHTML, without the GNOME bloat.
> 
> >  This reminds me a bit of Gimp which also have talked about wanting to
> >  use 6-7
> >  of the GNOME libraries in their next version, but in order to keep
> >  their GNOME
> >  dependancy low, GNOME libs will not be one of them.
> 
> Good.  I am glad to know that the Gimp people are smart enough to
> understand that GNOME is not a set of widgets, but is instead SUPPOSED to
> be a set of guidelines for creating consistant applications.
> 
> >  Who the hell are 'all' these people who have all these gtk and GNOME
> >  support
> >  libraries installed and who gladly will install 50 others as long as
> >  there is
> >  no GNOME dependency, yet who think GNOME libs will take up to much of
> >  their
> >  precious disk space.
> 
> It's not all about disk space.  In fact, all of my users who previously
> used GtkHTML with CSCMail have now switched to CscHTML.  Why? Because
> CscHTML renders FASTER than GtkHTML.  I hardly believe it myself.  But
> not linking with the GNOME libs made it noticably faster.  Sounds like a
> win-win situation to me.  You get a faster widget, and fewer
> dependancies.
> 
> >  Just me wondering and feeling a bit sarcastic
> >  Christian
> 
> Thanks for your input.  Feel free to contact me at any time with
> questions or comments about CscHTML.. I will have a mailing list setup
> soon.  I plan on being RESPONSIVE to my users, just as I am with my other
> project (CSCMail)
> 
> -Count Zero
> 

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