Re: Will Gnome _EVER_ be stable?

["Arthur H. Johnson II" <arthur linuxbox nu>]

Not here.

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On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, stan wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 01:07:09AM -0500, stan wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 06:42:26PM -0500, stan wrote:
> > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 02:02:14PM -0700, John Fleck wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 01:06:08PM -0500, stan wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I've seen this failure in various flavors of Gnome for longer that I care
> > > > > to remember.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > You've seen this before? So I'll assume that you've filed bug reports,
> > > > and followed up with the hackers to help diagnose the problem. That's
> > > > certainly a key part of the way free software works, with users
> > > > serving as a necessary part of the team by carefully reporting their
> > > > problems so the hackers can help diagnose and fix them. My experience
> > > > in reporting bugs has been phenomenal - these people like to fix 'em
> > > > if they know about 'em.
> > >
> > > The only time I do that, is when I can offer enough details to provide
> > > a reproducable problme. Saying "My system broke" is not a useful bug
> > > report.
> > >
> > > My point is that Gnome 1.4 (the stable version) should be beyond this
> > > type of behavior. If I were runing 2.0 that would be a different mater
> > > entirly.
> > >
> > > But i have choosen to run the "stable" version in order to actually
> > > get work done.
> > >
> > BTW, for those of you who mailed asying "Why Gnome never crashes for me"
> > I'ts crashed 3 times tonite. All occur when loging out, and there is a error
> > popup thta pops up fo a fraction of a secons each time/ One of it's choices
> > "wait for applet", and I maanged to actually get it clicked within that
> > fraction of a second. Didn't help, when I loged back in all traces of panels
> > were gone :-(
> >
> > Sorrym but this is the exact same behavior that cused me to decide that Gnome
> > was not ready for real users about 3 years ago.
> >
> > Any sugestiosn as to how to get enough informatioon to submit a _useful_ bug
> > report on this?
> >
>
> Followup to this (after a 3 hour restore from tape in the middle of the
> night).
>
> I can relaibly reproduce this crash now. Details folow.
>
> Machine 1.2GHZ Athalon 750M memory
> Gnome woody .debs
>
> Login in using gdm. Log right back out (within say 30 seconds).
> The WILL trash your panels.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
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