unkillable processes



I often end up with unkillable processes from gnome, where kill -9 won't
get rid of them.  This seems to only happen on remote X terminals (e.g.
LTSP), and only when I logout with a gnome application still running
that I have forgotten about.

Is there any way to get rid of these short of rebooting?  While this
is not a business machine, I hate interrupting seti home and folding home :-)

I have RedHat 7.3 with Ximian Desktop 2:
magicdev-0.3.6-6
nautilus-2.2.4-0.ximian.4.7

BTW, free RedHat 7.3 support ends tonight.  What are other people
doing for free or low cost source of support (as in updates) for home use of
Gnome 2?  I like RPM - and building source RPMS that support my distro
is no problem.  I have been handling security updates (for sendmail, openssh,
openssl, etc) to RedHat 6.2 myself with no problem at work (and will probably
continue that way for RH72 and RH73).  However, I tend to get confused
trying to get these GUI systems compiled and integrated.  The company
offering $5/mo security updates doesn't cover upgrading/fixing Gnome.

ps -fu stuart:
stuart   19022     1  0 Dec30 ?        00:00:04 magicdev --sm-config-prefix /mag
stuart   21389     1  0 09:59 ?        00:00:00 magicdev --sm-config-prefix /mag
stuart   21391     1  0 09:59 ?        00:00:00 nautilus --sm-config-prefix /nau
stuart   21532     1  0 10:01 ?        00:00:00 magicdev --sm-config-prefix /mag
stuart   21534     1  0 10:01 ?        00:00:00 nautilus --sm-config-prefix /nau
stuart   21685     1  0 10:03 ?        00:00:00 magicdev --sm-config-prefix /mag
stuart   21687     1  0 10:03 ?        00:00:00 nautilus --sm-config-prefix /nau
stuart   21901     1  0 10:07 ?        00:00:00 magicdev --sm-config-prefix /mag
stuart   21903     1  0 10:07 ?        00:00:00 nautilus --sm-config-prefix /nau
stuart   22060     1  0 10:09 ?        00:00:00 magicdev --sm-config-prefix /mag
stuart   22062     1  0 10:09 ?        00:00:00 nautilus --sm-config-prefix /nau
stuart   22225     1  0 10:12 ?        00:00:00 magicdev --sm-config-prefix /mag
stuart   22229     1  0 10:12 ?        00:00:00 nautilus --sm-config-prefix /nau

/proc/19022/status:
Name:   magicdev
State:  D (disk sleep)
Tgid:   19022
Pid:    19022
PPid:   1
TracerPid:      0
Uid:    902     902     902     902
Gid:    101     101     101     101
FDSize: 32
Groups: 101 5 500 23 501 502 
VmSize:     6932 kB
VmLck:         0 kB
VmRSS:      2656 kB
VmData:      504 kB
VmStk:        84 kB
VmExe:        24 kB
VmLib:      5820 kB
SigPnd: 0000000000004100
SigBlk: 0000000080000000
SigIgn: 8000000000001000
SigCgt: 00000000000004c0
CapInh: 0000000000000000
CapPrm: 0000000000000000
CapEff: 0000000000000000

-- 
			Stuart D. Gathman <stuart bmsi com>
      Business Management Systems Inc.  Phone: 703 591-0911 Fax: 703 591-6154
	"[Microsoft] products are even less buggy than others, in terms of
	    per capita usage." - Steve Balmer, Microsoft Corporation




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