Re: remove interface tab (please don't)

["DARKGuy ." <dark guy 2008 gmail com>]

I agree on keeping the Interface tab. I always used it on first gnome
installs to remove the text under the icons and make the toolbars more
compact - windows-like. I hate big toolbars anyways... it kind of
makes you feel that your current monitor isn't using the screen space
as --efficiently-- as windows or mac...

I always say: Don't force settings on the user, or at least if you
have to, give them choice. Linux should be customizable, right? or so
the whole community have made it seem like so. Then, forcing settings
like that by removing a customization option isn't very comfortable...
or do the gnome guys like when people find ways to hack on gnome
config settings because of unhappy users by the --useful-- feature
removal? I don't think so.

... it makes no sense to spend time hacking something that was working
before. Why not hack to --improve-- something?. It's pointless to hack
to improve something that was previously improved.

Just my 2 cents.

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Daniel James <daniel netbreeze com au> wrote:
>
> .. This is just annoying. Why are the options in the interface tab considered a hack? The fact is they do alter functionality related to the interface. Sure if there is a 'better' way to do this, do it - but don't pretend that defaulting to no icons and big chunky toolbars is the 'better way'.
> Daniel
>
> On 21 February 2010 15:53, leftyfb <leftyfb left-click org> wrote:
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>> This "bug" was brought to my attention when I recently tried out Ubuntu
>> 10.04 alpha 2 to see what new improvements Ubuntu and Gnome in general
>> had. Upon going through my usual routine of setting preferences to my
>> liking, I could not find the option to put back the menu icons in the 3
>> main menu's provided by Gnome in the top panel. Only some of the icons
>> are shown, others are not. There used to be a setting to bring them all
>> back. This was previously just an annoyance to have to complete the look
>> of the menu's.
>>
>> I went to #ubuntu+1 on Freenode and asked if this lack of preference was
>> just a temporary setback in the alpha developemnt of Ubuntu. I was
>> pointed to this "bug":
>> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=592756
>>
>> Reading the first comment:
>>
>> "Discussed many times.  We should remove the interface tab.  Basically
>> everthing there is a user experience design cop-out.  It only belongs in
>> a tweak UI tool
>> - - but only if someone cares enough to write one."
>>
>> "Discussed many times"
>> Discussed where? Were Gnome users asked for feedback on this decision?
>>
>> "It only belongs in a tweak UI tool - but only if someone cares enough
>> to write one."
>> User experience preferences for gnome should now be the responsibility
>> of third party developers who might or might not develop tools to put
>> back user experience preferences which gnome developers created and then
>> removed in the first place?
>>
>>
>> The rest of the comments in "bug" are people disagreeing with the
>> original developer in his decision to remove the preference competely.
>> Save for 1 developer who agree'd and implemented the descision stating
>> "majority of users". What majority of users? So far I'm seeing most
>> people disagreeing with the descision. Not to mention, I don't see the
>> majority of users requesting preferences be removed regardless if they
>> are of interest to them or not. Why this descision? Is this preference
>> really that much of a bane on the system resources? Why are we removing
>> half the icons from the menu's making them looked half finished and
>> unpolished? Why not remove all icons and be done with it?
>>
>>
>> I voiced my opinion in the comments of this bug just like the "majority
>> of users" were doing. My comment and one other was removed and my
>> account on bugzilla disabled.
>>
>> So, where does a user go to voice his opinions on this type of developer
>> decision where said developers will read it and hopefully impact the
>> descision? Where can a user submit feedback on bringing back a
>> preference that was removed?
>>
>> Can we please get this preference put back? I don't care where it is,
>> but we shouldn't have to wait for a third party tool to reimplement
>> preferences to finish the look of the menu's that have already existed
>> but were removed.
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