Re: [gnome-love] New GnomeGoal

[Luis Menina <liberforce fr st>]

Well, first of all, thanks for your contribution to the AppIcon goal, 
David !

I give the link to people who may want to see your goal proposal, as it 
seems you forgot it in your message:
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/DistCheck

I think the idea is good, but maybe a bit complicated for newcommers, as 
it need some autotools knowledge, and there's no easy "recipe" to 
correct the problems.

GNOME Goals are meant to be easy, and make understanding better how the 
GNOME stuff works. So a goal that will mandatorily require massive help 
from another person to guide the one that wants to complete the goal 
will IMHO be very hard to complete.

Here's my vision of a good GNOME Goal:
To know how to complete his goal, a newcommer will need clear guidelines 
with at least one of: (choose a,b, or c)
a) a person that knows well the problem and can reply to help requests
b) a maintainer that is able to give some time to help fix the bug for 
his module
c) some statement in the guidelines of frequent mistakes and a way to 
correct them.

For the "distcheck" goal, we have none of these the conditions. Each 
project will generate different errors, and it's not easy to teach 
people how to complete the goal (except that "learn autotools", which is 
not an acceptable answer!).

Moreover, I would have prefered that you had proposed your goal on the 
mailing list *before* adding it. Request for comments is generaly good, 
and should be IMHO mandatory before turning a proposed goal into an 
official goal.
That's what I did for the Goal #4:
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-love/2007-April/msg00017.html

These are the reasons why I removed your proposal of the official GNOME 
Goals list (hope you won't be mad at me about this).

So, if we want to launch a new GNOME Goal, here are the candidates:
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/AboutDialog
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/SaveState
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/UpdateInfoFiles
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/DistCheck
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/WikiMigration

So, IMHO, DistCheck, and WikiMigration require more work to be accepted. 
SaveState seems to have been based on a bad interpretation, so on its 
current form, it will not become an official GNOME Goal.

Remains UpdateInfoFiles and AboutDialog, which have both a good basis. 
AboutDialog has good guidelines, and only a few technical points to make 
more clear. UpdateInfoFiles is less clear, but involves no coding, which 
is also a good thing, as GNOME Goals should not be a reserved playground 
for developers.

So for those who have read this long email, which one do you prefer, so 
we can improve it a bit, before turning it an official goal ?

Please, feel free to comment.

Cheers,

Luis Menina

David Farning a écrit :
> Hey All,
>
> Just wanted to let you know that I added a new Gnome Goal, DistCheck[1].
>
> This is a good goal for all of you interested in learning more about the
> Gnome build process and the installation process in general.
>
> I will be learning with you;)
>
> Thanks
> David Farning
>
>
>
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