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Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] Help!! - ALSA crashes my Gnomemeeting

i can tell you its alsa.  i installed rc5 and my system became totally
unstable.  constant crashes  and that was with only arts running

remove alsa  bingo system is stable again

Dennis

On Thu, 2002-11-07 at 18:21, Damien Sandras wrote:
> Following the Mandrake website, APIC support can give troubles in
> Mandrake 9.0 and produce system freezes.
> Apparently, the problems people have only appear with Alsa RC5. That is
> a big problem as I don't know the cause. I have no problems here with
> ALSA RC5. The problem is that most people coming from the windows world
> will automatically think GnomeMeeting is the cause, and not look
> further. It is impossible for me to determine the problem and contact
> the required people (Redhat, ALSA, webcam driver?) if I don't know
> exactly the cause of the problem. The only thing that I can confirm is
> that GM can't crash the system itself. If it is crashing the system,
> then it means that there are drivers bugs. Only a buggy driver can crash
> the kernel. And even if I was sending garbage to the driver, it should
> resist. But I doubt Im sending garbage as most of the people have no
> problem. So Im really disappointed by those distributions-specific
> problems.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Le jeu 07/11/2002 à 00:32, Jeff Collins a écrit :
> > 
> > 
> > Damien Sandras wrote:
> > 
> > >After a bit of searching on google, it seems that it can also be due to
> > >the "APIC" support in kernels.
> > >
> > RedHat supports APIC machines, such as an old PII machine I have. The only
> > way it can operate is with APIC support:
> > 
> > [jeffco sitka jeffco]$ cat /proc/interrupts
> > 
> >            CPU0       CPU1       CPU2       CPU3      
> >   0:    6849281    6865595    7027444    6698755    IO-APIC-edge  timer
> >   1:          2          1          0          1    IO-APIC-edge  keyboard
> >   2:          0          0          0          0          XT-PIC  cascade
> >  12:          2         14          1          3    IO-APIC-edge  PS/2 Mouse
> >  18:     323328     354881     332402     332397   IO-APIC-level  eth0
> >  54:          0          0          0          0   IO-APIC-level  usb-uhci
> >  56:          6          9          6          9   IO-APIC-level  ncr53c8xx
> >  57:      34690      34508      34352      33533   IO-APIC-level  ncr53c8xx
> >  58:          4          3          5          7   IO-APIC-level  53c7,8xx
> > NMI:          0          0          0          0
> > LOC:   27442345   27442344   27442344   27442344
> > ERR:          0
> > MIS:      
> > 
> > The machine is currently running RH 7.3 and I plan to upgrade
> > it to 8.0 soon.
> > 
> > Jeff
> > 
> > >Do you know if redhat provides kernels with APIC support?
> > >If so, can you try the ALSA RC5 again (you should be able to back up
> > >your current install: make uninstall, make install to reinstall it), but
> > >boot linux with the 'append noapic' line in /etc/lilo.conf ?
> > >
> > >Thanks :)
> > >
> > >Le mer 06/11/2002 à 23:34, Damien Sandras a écrit :
> > >  
> > >
> > >>Perhaps I should mail the ALSA developers mailing list.
> > >>Once it works, can you mail me privately in a day or two to confirm me
> > >>that it never crashes?
> > >>
> > >>Thanks
> > >>
> > >>(Perhaps you could also mail the ALSA developers mailing list to report
> > >>them the bug, they will surely ask you things about your setup).
> > >>
> > >>My opinion is that there is a bug in ALSA 0.9.0 RC5 and that it is
> > >>independant of Redhat. (Mandrake people are using the ALSA version
> > >>shipping with MDK 9, which is a bit older).
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Thanks for your contribution!
> > >>
> > >>Le mer 06/11/2002 à 23:26, Marc Williams a écrit :
> > >>    
> > >>
> > >>>Ok, here's the latest on the Alsa drivers.
> > >>>
> > >>>Sine the only way to use the FreshRPMs was to use the latest, 0.9.0rc5,
> > >>>because they're the only ones that matched my kernel, Damien asked if I
> > >>>would compile an older version since that wouldn't be kernel version
> > >>>specific.  Just for the heck of it, and to make sure it wasn't just the
> > >>>packaging done by Freshrpms, I compiled the latest version, rc5. 
> > >>>Likewise, the compiled version crashed my system shortly after a
> > >>>connection was established.
> > >>>
> > >>>So it was then on to rc3, the version that Damien asked me to compile
> > >>>from the start.  Bingo.  It works without crashing.  So iguess that
> > >>>would lead one to believe that there is a compatibility issue between RH
> > >>>8, rc5, and Gnomemeeting.
> > >>>
> > >>>So the summary answer for anyone running Red Hat 8 and who wants or
> > >>>needs to use the Alsa driver - compile the older Alsa 0.9.0rc3.
> > >>>
> > >>>Now to figure out a few weird things with my new audio...  But at least
> > >>>it doesn't crash.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 10:30, Marc Williams wrote:
> > >>>      
> > >>>
> > >>>>On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 10:27, Damien Sandras wrote:
> > >>>>        
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>You are not the only one to mention kernel crashes using GnomeMeeting
> > >>>>>under Redhat 8.0.
> > >>>>>System crashing means a driver bug. As me, and many other people who are
> > >>>>>using ALSA have no problem, it would indicate a Redhat 8.00 bug.
> > >>>>>Did you have system crashing when using GnomeMeeting before using ALSA?
> > >>>>>          
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>No.  It worked great.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>        
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>Did you compile ALSA yourself?
> > >>>>>          
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>No.  Used freshRPMs.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>I'm doing a bit of looking elsewhere also.  I'd rather not remove ALSA
> > >>>>until I give it a fair workout so I'm looking forward to fixing this....
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>        
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Le mer 06/11/2002 à 17:18, Marc Williams a écrit :
> > >>>>>          
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>Being the compulsive tinkerer that can't leave well enough alone, I
> > >>>>>>decided to install ALSA on my RH 8.0 system.  Why?  I have no idea other
> > >>>>>>than a lot of people say very positive things about ALSA.  I followed
> > >>>>>>the directions on the freshrpms and ALSA sites to install.  Set a few
> > >>>>>>things in alsamixer and voila!  Everything seemed to work.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Until I fired up Gnomemeeting.  A few seconds after connecting with
> > >>>>>>anyone (I've tried two different people) my system locks up tighter than
> > >>>>>>a (pick your metaphore).  Mouse is frozen, no keyboard, yadda yadda. 
> > >>>>>>Requires a hard boot.  Thank goodness for ext3, eh?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>All my other apps that I've tried so far seem to work well.  At least
> > >>>>>>those that deliver audio.  I don't have any other apps that use the mic.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>So even though I'm fairly certain that this is not a Gnomemeeting issue
> > >>>>>>since it seems that a lot of people use ALSA with Gnomemeeting, I
> > >>>>>>thought I'd ask here for help.  After all, people here are nice and
> > >>>>>>besides, I'm not subscribed to an ALSA list.  :)
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Not sure what info is needed to track this down.  Here's my modules.conf
> > >>>>>>(I'm sure it will wrap horribly):
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
> > >>>>>>alias eth0 eepro100
> > >>>>>># alias sound-slot-0 es1371
> > >>>>>># post-install sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L
> > >>>>>>            
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>/dev/null 2>&1 || :
> > >>>>>>>              
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>># pre-remove sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S
> > >>>>>>            
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>/dev/null 2>&1 || :
> > >>>>>>>              
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>post-install snd-card-0 /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
> > >>>>>>pre-remove snd-card-0 /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
> > >>>>>>alias char-major-81 bttv
> > >>>>>># ALSA portion
> > >>>>>>alias char-major-116 snd
> > >>>>>>alias snd-card-0 snd-ens1371
> > >>>>>># module options should go here
> > >>>>>># OSS/Free portion
> > >>>>>>alias char-major-14 soundcore
> > >>>>>>alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
> > >>>>>># card #1
> > >>>>>>alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
> > >>>>>>alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
> > >>>>>>alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
> > >>>>>>alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
> > >>>>>>alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>I really appreciate any pointers you can give to get this thing fixed so
> > >>>>>>that I don't have to back out the ALSA stuff.  In case it's not obvious
> > >>>>>>from the modules.conf file, my card is an Ensoniq ES1371.  CPU is a AMD
> > >>>>>>k6-2 400.  I used the RPMs available on the freshrpms site.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Thanks!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>_______________________________________________
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> > >>>>>>http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnomemeeting-list
> > >>>>>>            
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>-- 
> > >>>>> _	Damien Sandras
> > >>>>>(o-	GnomeMeeting: http://www.gnomemeeting.org/
> > >>>>>//\	FOSDEM 2003:  http://www.fosdem.org
> > >>>>>v_/_	
> > >>>>>	H.323 phone:  callto://ils.seconix.com/dsandras seconix com
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
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> > >>  _
> > >> (o-      SANDRAS Damien
> > >> //\      
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