Hi Bill, > on the other hand, since we tested at one point with unprotected machines > (both ends on a dmz) then we would expect the firewall to not be an issue. well, in that case you have best chances in the #gnomemeeting channel or on ILS (ils.seconix.com) to find a testing peer.. but please note that there's NO PORTFORWARDING at all neccessary when the router supports natively h323. > could you elaborate on the part about win-internal ipsec? it's the iptables of windows which was introduced with Win2k and is supported by: Win2k, WinXP, Win2k3.. the syntax is a bit very different to iptables though.. just the mechanism is similar.. you'll find details on all microsoft sites like: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q253169 you might wanna check the links of: http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/os/ms/ipsec-paketfilter.php (sorry the text is german, but they don't seem to have an english page) -- Best regards, Kilian
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