Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] ideas..

[JGJones <mailgroups bluecheetah biz>]

The reason I asked about x264 was if you go to http://www.bslvrs.co.uk - 
you will see RNID SignTalk - which is a video based relay centre for 
sign language use in UK (there are currently 3 systems including that one).

However they all require the use of at minimum H.263 video codec (264 is 
better, 263 is accepted due to use of the DLink DVC-1000 videophone 
which use H.263 for video.

I sadly cannot use GnomeMeeting since the H.261 does not provide a good 
enough video for the interpreter to understand me during a relay 
session. Currently I am using the vPoint HD client from vcon - which is 
a Windows only application using H.264 video...just when I get my camera 
fixed so that I can use GnomeMeeting I once again find I still have to 
reboot to Windows...gahh! :)

I shall email x264 developers themselves and ask pretty please then 
since I really do not want to keep on rebooting to Windows just for 
video calls (or the expense of getting another computer! I'm saving for 
a Powerbook atm for my wife)

Having dabbled in the video relay market - I was invloved in the 
building of one call centre using Cisco Call Manager - I know that this 
is a potentially huge market - there is a vast number of users in USA 
already, and while the UK's project is first for Europe as far as I 
know, but the company whom I worked for using Cisco Call Manager have 
plans to expand their service by setting up same thing across Europe.

This will potentially have access to hundred of thousands if not million 
of sign language users across Europe. I believe that with those people 
making heavy use of video calls - which will then do the same to their 
hearing friends...those hearing people (ie not deaf) might then 
appericate using video phone...it's possible that use of videophone will 
increase there as well...although that's an unknown!

Thus for me, it's too important to not ignore this video call issues :)

Cheers

JGJones

Y Ddraig Goch a ddyry Gychwyn
Cymru am byth

BSL Video-Group:
http://mail.bluecheetah.biz/mailman/listinfo/bsl-vgroup_bluecheetah.biz

Deaf-UK Technology Wiki
http://bslvgroup.mrdini.com/wiki/Main_Page

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Craig Southeren wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 11:42:16 +0200
> Johnny Strom <jonny strom netikka fi> wrote:
>
> ..deleted
>
>
> > > However, there is a licensing problem. x264 is GPL, and OPAL/OPENH323
> > > are MPL. GPL and MPL are incompatible. If we make a plugin, then it
> > > won't solve the problem following Mr Stallman because the program is
> > > "linked" in memory.
>
>
> The issue of x264 was discussed extensively on the OpenH323 list
> recently. See
>
> http://www.openh323.org/pipermail/openh323/Week-of-Mon-20051121/075684.html
>
>
> > Btw why is opal/openh32 MPL?
>
>
> It uses the MPL because Robert and I chose that license 7 years ago, and
> I still think it was the right decision
>  
>
> > Seen this:
> > http://www.dwheeler.com/essays/gpl-compatible.html
>
>
> OpenH323 is MPL and it cannot be changed. No amount of GPL propaganda
> will change that.
>
> ..deleted
>
>
> > > x264 should add an exception clause for OpenH323/OPAL in their license.
>
>
> You need to talk to the x264 project about that, but reports from other
> users are that they are not even interested in converting from GPL to
> LGPL - I can't see them adding an exception for OpenH323.
>
> But don't let me stop you from asking them :)
>
>    Craig
>
>
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