Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] When Ekiga rings... follow-up

[Damien Sandras <dsandras seconix com>]

Le jeudi 22 juin 2006 à 20:33 +0200, Fabien Chevalier a écrit :
> Hello All,
> 
> Many thanks for your answers, suggestions and remarks regarding my 
> previous post :-)
> 
> After having read all your answers, i feel the need to add some more 
> fuel to the debate :-)
> In a form a a small Q&A.
> 
> Q: Why the way Ekiga currently rings makes it unusuable (or at least 
> really painful to use) ?
> 
> Given the fact that the number of ring tones variates from one call to 
> another, i have no way to count the tones to avoid the voicemail.
> Being able to avoid the voice mail for me is an important for the 
> following to cases:
>    - i want to call the guys i work with that are in a remote location. 
> However if they are not there, i get redirected to a team assistant. The 
> fact that the team assistant assists ~ 30 people makes her unlikely to 
> be of any interest for me. Which means when i call the guy, i give up 
> after a few tones, and would try later rather than having to explain my 
> case to this tem assistant. Ok, this case is rather tricky, and is just 
> too "myself-oriented". But let see the next one.
>    - when i call my friends on their mobile phone and their mobile phone 
> is not up, i sometimes don't wanna let a message in there voicemail 
> either. Using ekiga, i won't be able to avoid their voicemail, and will 
> be charged like hell by their mobile network operator. (well, like hell
> is a bit too much, i know :-) )
> 
> Q:Why is it important to solve this issue ?
> The SIP provider i use is a broadband Internet provider that has ~ 1.5 
> Million ADSL subsribers. It is known to be Linux friendly (i.e. it 
> publicly advertises it uses Linux internally, has contributes back to 
> VideoLAN project when it launched it's TV service, makes no trouble when 
> you connect your Linux box to their network). As such it is the
> Internet provider most people using Linux use nowadays in France.
> The SIP service is free, and provides free calls to landlines in France 
> and in many Internationnal country. It is likely to be the beginning of 
> the "SIP revolution" where you don't have to pay anything to call 
> anybody anywhere.
> As this service is still experimental, it hasn't been advertised, and 
> many people don't use it yet. However when it will be launched in 
> September, and i wouldn't be surprised to have tens of thousands of 
> Linux users willing to use Ekiga with it. :-) (For Damien : no it does 
> not send call progress media... too bad !!)
> 
> How to fix the issue ? Here are 3 possible solutions:
>    1 - Do nothing until we receive the "ringing" SIP message. Then start 
> ringing. I would tend to believe that the user does not need any 
> feedback to know that the call is in progress. In fact the user asked 
> the phone to dial somewhere. It wouldn't make sense for the phone to 
> *silently* ignore the user action. The phone should throw up un error 
> message saying that something bad prevented it to start dialing instead. 
> But i bet that it is already the way Ekiga works, isn't it ? (and by the 
> way, it is the way most UNIX commands work too :-) - They do not print
> anything on success)
>    2 - Create a new king of tone : a "dialing tone". Play the "dialing 
> tone" until we receive the "ringing" SIP message. Then play the 
> "ringing" tone.
>    3 - implement a Throbber to notify the user that the call is in 
> progress. Launch the ring tone only when we receive the "ringing" SIP 
> message.
> 
> I would personnally go for 1 or 2. 3 would work too but requires more work.
> For your information, SJPhone implements solution 2.
> 
> Polls are opens!! What do you guys think of these solutions ??
> 

I think that you can post a bug report for a feature request, but that
there is few chance it gets implemented before at least 3.00. I prefer
2.
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