Re: Coming to grips with the state of a11y in gtk
- From: Emmanuele Bassi <ebassi gmail com>
- To: Matthias Clasen <matthias clasen gmail com>
- Cc: accessibility mailing list <gnome-accessibility-devel gnome org>, gtk-devel-list <gtk-devel-list gnome org>
- Subject: Re: Coming to grips with the state of a11y in gtk
- Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 14:54:46 +0000
On Thu, 2011-02-17 at 09:43 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> The current state of affairs cannot be useful for anybody.
let's also look at the state of Atk's API, and what's required to do to
create an ATK implementation. when I looked at the accessible
implementations in GtkSpinner and GtkSwitch I was shocked at the
verbosity and roundabout way you have to go to implement an AtkObject.
plus, it's *really* hard to implement an an accessible widget with
anything else but C - and even there the type definition macros are just
papering over the byzantine incantations to register factories and such.
finally, Atk is strictly dependent on how GDK works - especially with
regards to events; I'm using Atk in Clutter, but there's a whole layer
devoted to translating Clutter code into what Atk expects from GDK. for
an abstract toolkit, that's a nice piece of fail right there.
chucking away Atk is not the way, but fixing its glaring issues would
make implementing a11y directly inside gtk+, and other toolkits, a lot
easier.
ciao,
Emmanuele.
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