Re: GTK+, WM, desktops and CSD



Hi

On 5 March 2015 at 20:09, Emmanuele Bassi <ebassi gmail com> wrote:
On 5 March 2015 at 19:17, Florian Müllner <fmuellner gnome org> wrote:
What about apps that rely on CSD for part of their UI? Will those have the
final word as well, or are they just screwed?

The same as now without a compositor :)

a) X11 without a compositor is a deeply uninteresting case; I'd go as
far as saying that if you're running X11 without a compositor you're
basically asking for a broken system

I am not sure I am following you here, but people do run WM without a
compositor, it is a reality.

And GTK supports that, at least up until now, and that's fine by me.

b) not having a compositor is not at all equivalent to changing a UI
from a CSD to a SSD scenario. The UI *changes*, even in drastic ways
for the user interaction. The application has to be informed about it,
and has to be designed with those two cases in mind. It has to ship
with two fairly different sets of UIs. It already happens for menus,
but you'll have to convince application developers to ship those two
UIs, maintain them, and keep them from going out of sync. Your idea
stops at providing a patch for a hint. You're vastly underestimating
the effort that such hint entails on the larger ecosystem.

But it's already the case, I am not advocating to reinvent the entire
ecosystem of UI interactions here, I am merely asking if a setting to
help GTK decide to go CSD or SSD instead of just detecting the
presence of the compositor alone would be interesting...

Cheers,
Olivier


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