Re: glademm

[John Taber <jtaber johntaber net>]

Yeah, I call the whole gtkmm situation "Anti-RAD" which is okay if you 
do not have any time pressure or much GUI but unproductive/uncompetitive 
if you are in a commercial environment with a lot of GUI.  Check out 
Anjuta 2 with the glade plug-in - it is headed in the right direction, 
but seems a ways off for production use.

btw I've used all these toolkits.  Qt and FLTK have their advantages but 
are only what I call "Semi-RAD".  Delphi and VisualStudio.Net are indeed 
very "RAD" but have their own limitations (no MVC separation, Windows 
only, not the nice layout manager).  Like many things Apple, XCode seems 
the way programming ought to be - but sadly it's only for Apple.

Of course "real" programmers say they are just as productive in vi but, 
in actuality, the overall resulting low productivity is why more and 
more coding is being "offshored" to low cost areas.  Until we have a 
gtkmm, with an enhanced Anjuta 2, with some UML like capabilities, with 
gtkmm wrapped gtk basic extras (like gtkhtml or mozembed), and with the 
nice documentation of XFC, well, pick your poison.


Foster, Gareth wrote:
> > > It's an ordeal. You got to figure, if glademm hasn't been 
> >
> > included in FC4 extras, there
> >
> > > must be a reason for that. The glademm project seems dead. 
> >
> > I'm trying to
> >
> > > rally a few good men to give it a jump start. I can't 
> >
> > imagine I'm the only
> >
> > > one left using glademm, and I can't do any gui programming 
> >
> > without a gui
> >
> > > builder, and I insist in doing it in C++. If I can't get it 
> >
> > to compile,
> >
> > > I'll have to move to qt or fltk. 
> >
> > no your not the only one I'm the same
>
>
> The question to ask yourself is, is libglademm relly that bad? I used to
> work with Delphi, where code was generated for me and I filled in the stubs,
> just like glademm, the slight change of mindset (glademm -> libglademm) was
> troublesome, but you just have to get stuck in and work the way the rest of
> the Gnome community does (where they have good reason of course).
>
> Try not to let sentiments such as "well, I always worked that way on
> Windows" stop you from using gtk/glade.
>
> It's the same story with IDE managed projects and Autotools really. Anyway,
> it is from where I am sitting now, hopefully my experience of the transition
> will be of value to you.
>
> Gaz
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