Re: glibmm: Creating a DBus namespace?

[Jacky Alcine <jacky alcine thesii org>]

Well said, Milosz. I'm a C++ programmer myself, and I started with Gtkmm
so this issue only concerns me when I have to work back with legacy C
code and interact with other programmers that need to port themselves to
and fro.
On 02/15/2011 05:24 AM, Milosz Derezynski wrote:
> I very much doubt there is any chance to getting the C API namings changed.
> 
> In glibmm/gtkmm however there is the chance to improve on that. There is
> always the lingering question, at times more prominent than others, whether
> it is the "right" thing to do, i.e. to deviate from the C API, but I have
> personally always maintained, maybe not openly expressed, that the relation
> between the C API and g*mm should never go as far as to make the C++ API
> seem awkward; I'm sure it's not a big problem to even beginner programmers
> to adjust to the namespace change in the case of going from the C to the C++
> API and staying there.
> 
> I do however see it as a bit problematic in case you need to switch between
> C++ and C documentation in case something isn't wrapped yet or not
> documented thoroughly enough, which would be, as I see it, the only thing
> that speaks against my own proposition, but then again it's all already in a
> Gio::* namespace so in effect it wouldn't make a difference and I think
> using Gio::DBus:: is the better alternative.
> 
> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Jacky Alcine <jacky alcine thesii org>wrote:
> 
>> That makes sense. For the sake of cleanliness; is it possible to perhaps
>> rename the C object notations as well? I mean, the type GDBus is a bit
>> misleading; as it's part of Gio.
>>
>> On 02/15/2011 04:53 AM, Milosz Derezynski wrote:
>>> The "namespacing" in the C layer is very confusing. First, GDBus is part
>> of
>>> GIO, but types are named GDBus*, not GioDBus*.
>>>
>>> Then there are the "methods", which are named g_dbus_*, which would much
>>> rather suggest being a part of Glib itself, rather than GIO, but so is
>>> everything else in GIO (GFile*, g_file_*).
>>>
>>> It's not easy for me to come to an inner consensus here but since there
>> is
>>> already a Gio namespace in glibmm and even a Gio::DBus one, I'd prefer to
>>> see these classes move into Gio::DBus::*, but definitely not into
>> GDBus::*.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Jacky Alcine <jacky alcine thesii org
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sounds like a very good idea, promotes OOP-style coding.
>>>>
>>>> On 02/15/2011 04:19 AM, Murray Cumming wrote:
>>>>> We now have several Gio::DBus* classes:
>>>>> http://library.gnome.org/devel/glibmm/unstable/group__DBus.html
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm thinking of moving these into a Gio::DBus namespace, so we'd have
>>>>> Gio::DBus::Connection, instead of Gio::DBusConnection.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or maybe GDBus::Connection?
>>>>>
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