Re: Midnight Commander is my favorite FTP tool But is SFTP possible??

["Joe(theWordy)Philbrook" <jtwdyp gmx com>]

It would appear that on Aug 8, Tim Johnson did say:

> * Paul Hartman <paul hartman+gentoo-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w public gmane org> [110808 11:23]:
> > On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Keith Roberts <keith-EgJsBcelN5rk1uMJSBkQmQ public gmane org> wrote:
> > > On Sat, 6 Aug 2011, Yury V. Zaytsev wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sat, 2011-08-06 at 15:19 -0400, Joe Philbrook wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Is this possible with MC?
> > > > > If not are there any plans to implement such a thing??
> > > > > It would be awesome...
> > > >
> > > > Support for SFTP is being worked on right now by Ilya. I don't have any
> > > > ETAs, but there is code that is already functional in git, so it will be
> > > > shipped at some point.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure what platform you are on, but while you are waiting there is
> > > gFTP for Linux that supports FTPS, and on Windows there is WinSCP.
> >
> > SFTP and FTPS are not the same thing, BTW. :)
> >
> > FTPS is traditional FTP protocol with SSL-encrypted control channel
> > SFTP is SSH File Transfer Protocol, not related to traditional FTP
>   Nautilus on gnome with ubuntu supports sftp. But alas, nautilus is
>   not MC. I'm looking forward to mc sftp implementation.
>   cheers

I can also use filezilla which 'CAN' be used without dusting off the
rodent. And while it's nice to know about other applications that can do
this, I have to agree with Tim, other applications simply are not MC. 
For example: I have an image of an old Apollo launch in a file named
moonshot.jpg. I also have another file of the same name that is less
politically correct. With mc {since my ~/.mc/bindings file is set to use
"display" to open an image} it's real easy to make sure I don't accidentally
upload the wrong moonshot.jpg. with filezilla, I'd have to be real sure I
had the right directory...  ;-)

I'm still a little fuzzy about the diff between sftp & ftps though...
What little I know about sftp is that I've read that it uses port 22 by
default and that there is an sftp utility bundled in the same package with
ssh. And I think, but could be wrong, with sftp, the entire transaction is
encrypted... That is to say both the login password, and any files {uploaded
or downloaded} would all get encryption.

Am I correct so far?

But if "FTPS is traditional FTP protocol with SSL-encrypted control channel",
does that mean that this encrypted control channel would have protected the
password, but the actual file contents would be transmitted without
encryption???

And finally since the server involved would have some say as to which
protocols are allowed, I have to wonder if mc is going to get support
for both sftp & ftps? Or only just SFTP?

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