RE: [Nautilus-list] De-Lurk, Hello, Question: Roadmap?

["Ryan Muldoon" <rpmuldoon students wisc edu>]

What might be useful is to, as a roadmap is developed, consider what parts
are core functionality changes/additions, and what are pretty isolated.  I
know that bugzilla does a good job of this, but it might help to attract
additional volunteer effort if development was broken up into isolated
projects.  Like new sidebars, or views.  Or useful scripts.  But changes to
the shell, porting to gnome 2, and any changes to core nautilus are going to
be harder for new people.  I have the feeling, though, that there are a lot
of people in my situation: pretty good programmers, but don't have much
experience in large projects, etc.  These sorts of people could help do all
of the things that would be nice, but Darin and other major contributors
don't have time for dealing with.  If they are also non-core, and more
"sexy" seeming (since they make a user-visible difference), it is more
likely that people will try and do them.  Maybe getting gnome-love
involved/informed of smaller projects that could be taken on.

One thing that I would like to see addressed is what the plans are with
medusa.....I would love to see that mature.  It seems like a lot of the
performance type problems can go away with FAM/gnome-vfs monitoring
filesystem changes.  Searching and VFolders are both very important to me.
Of course, I've got a whole list of things that I would like to see
changed/added, as I'm sure everyone else does.  I remember that Eazel
compiled a list of feature requests right after 1.0, which may be useful for
framing the discussion.  Since much of the work will have to be porting to
the new libraries, it might be good to think about what can give us the most
bang for the buck, in terms of user satisfaction versus coding time.  Or,
identify areas that will be changed anyway, and so features could be added
without increasing instability.

So, let me know where I can help with working on the roadmap, and I'd be
happy to contribute to it.

	--Ryan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nautilus-list-admin lists eazel com
> [mailto:nautilus-list-admin lists eazel com]On Behalf Of Aaron Weber
> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 12:32 PM
> To: nautilus-list lists eazel com
> Subject: RE: [Nautilus-list] De-Lurk, Hello, Question: Roadmap?
>
>
> Ryan, Darin:
>
> Well, I'm more or less wondering about the following things:
>
> What 'major' releases should there be over the next six months?
> Which features will be added, or bugs fixed, in those releases, and
> which will be deferred until later? (this whole list-joining, bug-filing
> binge began with wondering if/when i could manipulate files and folders
> in the treeview...)
>
> I'm guessing that there will be a major release to coincide with GNOME
> 2.0, and I'd bet that nobody would object to a freeze a month or two
> before that. There could even be a 2-stage deal, with a feature-freeze
> and then a performance-freeze.
>
> I don't know when exactly 2.0 will be, so I don't know if there's time
> for a 1.1 release before then, but I'll bet that if there is, nobody
> would object to a T-minus-two-month feature freeze and a T-Minus-1-month
> bug-fixes-only freeze.
>
> So, we'd end up with bugzilla timeframes:
> 1.1
> 2.0
> future/post-2.0
>
> Anyway, the issues to be mapped would be, in no particular order:
>
> A: New Features (including ogg support for the music view, adding views,
> file and folder manipulation in the tree-view.).
>
> 1: Performance Enhancements, which I am not skilled enough to deal with,
> but they also should be
>
> i: Bug Fixing: I'd suggest sorting any bugs that aren't related to
> performance into "Cause a crash" and "Everything else."
>
> *: Porting to the GNOME 2.0 devel platform, which, again, I'm not
> skilled enough to do anything about.
>
> a.
>
> On 06 Aug 2001 12:11:38 -0500, Ryan Muldoon wrote:
> > I'd be interested in helping out with some roadmap-type things, or other
> > tasks that don't require a hacking setup.....My plans for hacking on
> > nautilus this summer have been thwarted by a dead home computer, so I am
> > stuck with a windows machine at work.  But I have some spare
> time to devote
> > to nautilus if that is useful to anyone.  I'm hoping that I can do some
> > hacking once I buy a new home machine, but I'd still like to contribute
> > somehow.
> >
> > 	--Ryan
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nautilus-list-admin lists eazel com
> > > [mailto:nautilus-list-admin lists eazel com]On Behalf Of Darin Adler
> > > Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 11:18 AM
> > > To: Aaron Weber
> > > Cc: nautilus-list lists eazel com
> > > Subject: Re: [Nautilus-list] De-Lurk, Hello, Question: Roadmap?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Monday, August 6, 2001, at 08:39  AM, Aaron Weber wrote:
> > >
> > > > Is there a roadmap for Nautilus 2.0 anywhere?
> > >
> > > No.
> > >
> > > > If not, should we develop one?
> > >
> > > Can't see any reason not to.
> > >
> > > Currently, the only concrete plans for Nautilus are to port
> to GNOME 2. I
> > > was planning to call this Nautilus 1.2, but maybe it should
> be called 2.0
> > > just to reduce confusion about GNOME 1 vs. 2. Just getting over
> > > to the new
> > > versions of libraries for GNOME 2 is a lot of work in itself.
> > > Besides that,
> > >   we are just "following our noses", dealing with problems as they are
> > > reported and all of that.
> > >
> > > Andy has some other things he's working on, so we should get
> those into a
> > > road map.
> > >
> > > If we had some more volunteers, then a more ambitious road
> map would be
> > > nice to have.
> > >
> > > > In bugzilla, the bug targets go up to 1.0 or so, and then
> "Future" ...
> > > > so it seems like at least we should have some sort of decision about
> > > > what "future" means. :>
> > >
> > > Yes. The idea there is that we notice new bugs by the fact
> that they have
> > > no milestone set. A milestone set to Future means that we
> decided at some
> > > point that they weren't for 1.0.
> > >
> > > The top priority for Bugzilla right now is actually moving the bugs to
> > > bugzilla.gnome.org, which is why I haven't done anything
> about this yet.
> > >
> > > I personally am going to make the bug moving (and dealing with
> > > the various
> > > incoming patches) my top priority and then work on something
> like a road
> > > map once that's done. But that shouldn't stop you from making
> > > some kind of
> > > road map sooner.
> > >
> > >      -- Darin
> > >
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