Re: Network Manager patched on Ubuntu Karmic 9.10

[Ryan Novosielski <novosirj umdnj edu>]

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Dan Williams wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 08:59 -0500, Ryan Novosielski wrote:
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>> Dan Williams wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 16:17 -0500, Ryan Novosielski wrote:
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>>>> Dan Williams wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 00:00 +0300, Louigi Verona wrote:
>>>>>> Hey, Dan!
>>>>>> Thanks for the advice. I am certainly keen on helping the community to
>>>>>> solve the problem, but the bug had been reported to launchpad with
>>>>>> like a dozen duplicates. The daily builds were suggested as partial
>>>>>> fix but since then I could get no information from anywhere and bug
>>>>>> reports on launchpad do not seem to be updated anymore. My friend was
>>>>>> asking me whether he should install Karmic and I couldn't say "yes",
>>>>>> since if his first GNU/Linux experience would be like that, I think
>>>>>> this would not be a good thing. So eventually I decided to contact
>>>>>> this mailing list directly, so that I can get some firsthand
>>>>>> information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My dream would be to get a new version of NM. Uninstall this one,
>>>>>> install this one and have it work normally like it did in 9.04 %) All
>>>>>> apps get bugs like this one sometimes - I am not complaining. I just
>>>>>> want to know if something is being done and if yes - when is a total
>>>>>> fix planned? To me it is a serious blocker.
>>>>> You can't realize that dream until we get some help in debugging the
>>>>> issue so that we can fix the problem.  We also can't do anything until
>>>>> users help us debug the problem by answering the questions that I've
>>>>> asked.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan
>>>> I have another one for Karmic, and I can do that as well. I've noticed
>>>> that there does not seem to be any way to get it to pay any attention to
>>>> an Ad-Hoc network. When I'm in range, the network appears in the
>>>> knetworkmanager applet, but if I click on it, nothing happens (much the
>>>> same as a hidden network did in a case we'd discussed in the past). I'm
>>>> not sure what the debug info would say, but it should be interesting to
>>>> find out. It looks like absolutely nothing happens at all.
>>> Can I get some /var/log/NetworkManager output from that?  Based on that
>>> we can enable wpa_supplicant debugging and find out from there.
>> It's daemon.log for me. Looks like this is what happens:
>>
>> Nov 18 08:56:19 novosirj-laptop NetworkManager: <WARN>
>> wait_for_connection_expired(): Connection (2)
>> /org/freedesktop/NetworkManagerSettings/2 failed to activate (timeout):
>> (0) Connection was not provided by any settings service
>> Nov 18 08:56:48 novosirj-laptop NetworkManager: <WARN>
>> wait_for_connection_expired(): Connection (2)
>> /org/freedesktop/NetworkManagerSettings/2 failed to activate (timeout):
>> (0) Connection was not provided by any settings service
>> Nov 18 08:56:51 novosirj-laptop wpa_supplicant[1256]:
>> CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS
>> Nov 18 08:56:51 novosirj-laptop wpa_supplicant[1256]: WPS-AP-AVAILABLE
>> Nov 18 08:57:00 novosirj-laptop NetworkManager: <WARN>
>> wait_for_connection_expired(): Connection (2)
>> /org/freedesktop/NetworkManagerSettings/2 failed to activate (timeout):
>> (0) Connection was not provided by any settings service
>> Nov 18 08:57:08 novosirj-laptop NetworkManager: <WARN>
>> wait_for_connection_expired(): Connection (2)
>> /org/freedesktop/NetworkManagerSettings/2 failed to activate (timeout):
>> (0) Connection was not provided by any settings service
>> Nov 18 08:57:20 novosirj-laptop NetworkManager: <WARN>
>> wait_for_connection_expired(): Connection (2)
>> /org/freedesktop/NetworkManagerSettings/2 failed to activate (timeout):
>> (0) Connection was not provided by any settings service
>>
>> Each one of those activate timeouts is a result of me clicking the
>> network and waiting 5-6 seconds. Didn't know to look in that log or I
>> would have Google'd this one sooner (which I'll do now to see if it gets
>> me anyplace).
> 
> So this log indicates that the applet isn't creating the connection
> correctly and providing it to NetworkManager after you click the
> network.  Is this actually knetworkmanager, or is this the KDE4 widget?
> knetworkmanager itself (the old standalone applet) is no longer
> developed and only works with NM 0.7.x actually.

Things are a little confusing in Karmic and I didn't know quite what to
make of it (I also didn't know a 0.8.0 was ever released, though I guess
the version number would suggest that it's pre-release). While it
appears that the previous version (Jaunty, 9.04) used a widget, it seems
that Karmic uses KNetworkManager. When looking at my packages, I see:

ii  plasma-widget-network-manager
0.9~svn1029786+ag1-0ubuntu1                                Network
Management widget for KDE4 Plasma
ii  plasma-widget-networkmanagement
0.9~svn1029786+ag1-0ubuntu1                                Network
Management widget for KDE4 Plasma

...which contain....

novosirj novosirj-laptop:~$ dpkg -L plasma-widget-network-manager
/.
/usr
/usr/share
/usr/share/doc
/usr/share/doc/plasma-widget-network-manager
/usr/share/doc/plasma-widget-network-manager/README
/usr/share/doc/plasma-widget-network-manager/copyright
/usr/share/doc/plasma-widget-network-manager/TODO.gz
/usr/share/doc/plasma-widget-network-manager/changelog.Debian.gz

novosirj novosirj-laptop:~$ dpkg -L plasma-widget-networkmanagement
/.
/usr
/usr/share
/usr/share/doc
/usr/share/doc/plasma-widget-networkmanagement
/usr/share/doc/plasma-widget-networkmanagement/README
/usr/share/doc/plasma-widget-networkmanagement/copyright
/usr/share/doc/plasma-widget-networkmanagement/TODO.gz
/usr/share/doc/plasma-widget-networkmanagement/changelog.Debian.gz
/usr/share/lintian
/usr/share/lintian/overrides
/usr/share/lintian/overrides/plasma-widget-networkmanagement
/usr/share/autostart
/usr/share/autostart/kde4-knetworkmanager-autostart.desktop
/usr/share/kde4
/usr/share/kde4/servicetypes
/usr/share/kde4/servicetypes/networkmanagement_vpnuiplugin.desktop
/usr/share/kde4/apps
/usr/share/kde4/apps/networkmanagement
/usr/share/kde4/apps/networkmanagement/networkmanagement.notifyrc
/usr/share/kde4/services
/usr/share/kde4/services/networkmanagement_openvpnui.desktop
/usr/share/kde4/services/networkmanagement_pptpui.desktop
/usr/share/kde4/services/networkmanagement_vpncui.desktop
/usr/share/kde4/services/kcm_networkmanagement_tray.desktop
/usr/share/kde4/services/kcm_networkmanagement.desktop
/usr/share/icons
/usr/share/icons/oxygen
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/32x32
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/32x32/actions
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/32x32/actions/accesspoint.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/32x32/devices
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/32x32/devices/network-wireless-50.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/32x32/devices/network-wireless-0.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/32x32/devices/network-wireless-75.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/32x32/devices/network-wired-activated.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/32x32/devices/network-wireless-25.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/32x32/devices/network-wireless-100.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/22x22
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/22x22/devices
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/22x22/devices/network-wireless-00.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/22x22/devices/network-wireless-0.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/22x22/devices/network-wireless-100.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/22x22/devices/network-wireless-75.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/22x22/devices/network-wired-activated.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/22x22/devices/network-wireless-25.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/22x22/devices/network-wireless-50.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/16x16
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/16x16/devices
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/16x16/devices/network-wireless-75.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/16x16/devices/network-wireless-100.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/16x16/devices/network-wireless-50.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/16x16/devices/network-wireless-25.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/16x16/devices/network-wired-activated.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/16x16/devices/network-wireless-0.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/48x48
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/48x48/devices
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/48x48/devices/network-wireless-25.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/48x48/devices/network-wireless-0.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/48x48/devices/network-wireless-75.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/48x48/devices/network-wireless-50.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/48x48/devices/network-wired-activated.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/48x48/devices/network-wireless-100.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/64x64
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/64x64/devices
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/64x64/devices/network-wired-activated.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/64x64/devices/network-wireless-0.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/64x64/devices/network-wireless-100.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/64x64/devices/network-wireless-25.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/64x64/devices/network-wireless-75.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/64x64/devices/network-wireless-50.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/128x128
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/128x128/devices
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/128x128/devices/network-wireless-25.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/128x128/devices/network-wireless-75.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/128x128/devices/network-wireless-0.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/128x128/devices/network-wired-activated.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/128x128/devices/network-wireless-100.png
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/128x128/devices/network-wireless-50.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/knetworkmanager.png
/usr/share/applications
/usr/share/applications/kde4
/usr/share/applications/kde4/knetworkmanager.desktop
/usr/bin
/usr/bin/knetworkmanager
/usr/bin/qdbusfornm
/usr/lib
/usr/lib/libknmservice.so.4.3.0
/usr/lib/libknmui.so.4.3.0
/usr/lib/libknminternals.so.4.3.0
/usr/lib/kde4
/usr/lib/kde4/kcm_networkmanagement.so
/usr/lib/kde4/networkmanagement_pptpui.so
/usr/lib/kde4/libexec
/usr/lib/kde4/libexec/networkmanagement_configshell
/usr/lib/kde4/networkmanagement_vpncui.so
/usr/lib/kde4/networkmanagement_openvpnui.so
/usr/lib/kde4/kcm_networkmanagement_tray.so
/usr/lib/libknmclient.so.4.3.0
/usr/lib/libknm_nm.so
/usr/lib/libsolidcontrolfuture.so
/etc
/etc/dbus-1
/etc/dbus-1/system.d
/etc/dbus-1/system.d/NetworkManager-kde4.conf
/usr/lib/libknmclient.so.4
/usr/lib/libknmui.so.4
/usr/lib/libknminternals.so
/usr/lib/libknmservice.so
/usr/lib/libknmui.so
/usr/lib/libknmclient.so
/usr/lib/libknmservice.so.4
/usr/lib/libknminternals.so.4

I guess this does mean I'm using KNetworkManager, but would they really
be crazy enough to ship a version of the GUI software that doesn't work
with the version of NetworkManager that ships with the distro? Here are
my NetworkManager packages:

ii  network-manager
0.8~a~git.20091013t193206.679d548-0ubuntu1                 network
management framework daemon
ii  network-manager-gnome
0.8~a~git.20091014t134532.4033e62-0ubuntu1                 network
management framework (GNOME frontend
ii  network-manager-vpnc
0.8~a~git.20091008t124012.f5b95a2-0ubuntu1                 network
management framework (VPNC plugin)

Thanks for your help, Dan -- I realize this may be slightly outside of
the scope of your role in the software.
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