Orca Options for Starting (was Re: Error caused by the Gnomme-panel!)

[Willie Walker <William Walker Sun COM>]

Hi Paul:

I'm guessing you are starting Orca by pressing Alt+F2 and then typing
"orca".  There is a bug in either gnome-panel or GTK that is causing
this crash.  It happens when accessibility is enabled and is quite a
pain in the neck.  

You might try starting Orca by a different means.  Here's just a few
ideas:

1) Create a desktop icon to launch it.  You can do this by adding a
launcher to the desktop.  Press Ctrl+F10 when the desktop has focus and
choose the "Create Launcher..." menu item.  You can give the desktop
focus by pressing Ctrl+Alt+Tab and cycling through the options.

2) Run orca from a virtual console.  Make sure you are logged in as the
same user as the one starting the graphical desktop and export
DISPLAY=:0.0 if you do this.  This is probably the easiest option and it
gives you direct access to kill/restart orc

3) Disable the automatic starting of the X Window System and use xinit
and ~/.xinitrc instead (you can add a command to start orca in
~/.xinitrc).  With this, you start xinit when logged into a virtual
console.  Unfortunately, the means for disabling the automatic starting
of the X Window System vary by OS distribution.

4) Try adding orca as a startup program via the gnome-session-properties
application. This will start orca automatically when you log in.

Hope this helps!

Will

PS - BTW, what TTS engine are you using for Orca?  It would be great if
we could get Orca to talk to speakup so you could use the same synth.  A
fellow list member may help us accomplish this (I hope! :-)).

On Thu, 2006-06-15 at 14:37 +0100, Lists wrote: 
> Hi All,
>
> I have been trying to get Orca-0.2.5 up and running. When I run orca from
> within the xwindows it just says "Orca setup" and all speech stops. A
> message appears which follows:
> The application "gnome-panel" has quit unexpectedly!
> Inform the developers of this message.
>
> This error message also occurs sometimes when I am using gnopernicus and I
> can't seem to solve it. I use speakup out in the terminal window with an
> apollo synth. I am not sure what is going on so please can someone help me
> get orca up and running. I feel I am close to achieving this and am excited
> about it because up to now I used windows and know little about linux in
> general. I guess its thanks to Bill acker and people here on this list that
> I know as much as I do now.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Paul.
>  
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: orca-list-bounces gnome org [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On
> Behalf Of Willie Walker
> Sent: 15 June 2006 12:37
> To: Janina Sajka
> Cc: orca-list gnome org
> Subject: Re: Orca Announcing 0.2.5 rpms
>
> On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 12:17 -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > rpm packages of Orca-0.2.5 for Fedora Core 5 are now available from:
> >
> > ftp://SpeakupModified.Org/fedora/rednote/
> >
> > The binary is under RPMS, and the source under SRPMS as usual with 
> > Fedora.
>
> Yeah Janina.  Thanks for your support.
>
> > I have first run:
> >
> > orca -t
> >
> > from the console, as the same user I am in the gui desktop. Once on 
> > the desktop, I have issued Alt-F2 and typed:
> >
> > orca -t
> >
> > again to get things started. Seems wrong, but is working for me on two 
> > systems.
>
> Can you describe more about what seems wrong?  BTW, the initial setup (i.e.,
> passing "-t" or "-s" as a command line argument) should only be needed to be
> done once.  Once you've gone through it, you should not need to pass the
> argument again.
>
> Will
>
>
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