Re: [orca-list] Thunderbird 3 accessibility



Hello,

Willie Walker  wrote:
Keyboard review punctuation in Firefox
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=520494

Right. The patches from this bug fixes this issue in thunderbird 3 as well.


Text selection is not announced in Firefox
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=412100

Yes i'd say this is the same bug. Let me add another example so you can judge your-self.
Let's imagine the following message loaded in thunderbird 3:


Line1
Line2
Line3


Now focus is at the begining of the first line. Pressing shift+down produces Line2 as this is the right report of the cursor movement.


Orca does not always speak the correct information when navigating
and/or selecting text across object boundaries in OOo Writer
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=517048

I don't think this might be related or at least it can't be determined right now as it looks as if no selection dependant actions are anounced in thunderbird 3. Of course it is possible to identify a selection according to the cursor movement as shown above.


Orca doesn't always speak expected message when selecting all
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=517127

Orca does not provide access to text attributes in Firefox
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434780

I think the same applies to these 2 bugs.


Can you describe this in more detail? For example, when you arrow up or
down, what is currently being presented and what would you prefer be
presented?

I am sorry. It's not a treeview it's a table however it reports its level. You know I am new comer from windows and there the only controls showing hierarchy by reporting their level are treeviews. Levels for menus and other controls are brought to windows with Iaccessible2 (but this is another story).

When moving up and down in this table I don't see a problem it does not speak table headers. But when focusing that control these are anounced.
You can simulate that by doing the following:
1) open any message in thunderbird 3
2) press esc key to close it.
Focus should be returned to the table where you have opened the message from. You can hear all the header names e.g. before it will say the subject line of the message you've just landed on you will hear column header attachments. Hopefully this is not going to be translation dependand stuff because I am runing slovak version of thunderbird.


Wow. Yeah...that's a huge list. Are you able to get a visual description
of the display when Orca is not running? I'm curious if this might be a
general Thunderbird performance problem or if it is specific to Orca.

I am not sure this is general issue. at this time I have got no assistance to confirm. Although I am afraid these tables and treeviews are all a bit sluggish almost every where. (e.g. pidgin contact list, list of tracks in rhytm box, gedit open dialog etc.).


It's OK, and we thank you for bringing these issues up!


Should I post some comments to the individual bugreports that it also affects thunderbird?

thanks

Peter



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