Re: [orca-list] Best email solution?

[Daniel Dalton <d dalton iinet net au>]

Hello Jason,

Sorry about the delay to your other mails, I've been sick and very busy 
with school and due dates lately so haven't had very long with doing email 
stuff.
Thanks for those mails though... And I'll get back to you asap.
I know this probably shouldn't be said on list, but thought I would tell 
you just encase it is a little while before I do.

Please see below for my email comments, and questions...

On Fri, 30 May 2008, Jason White wrote:

> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 05:31:17PM +0100, Alastair Irving wrote:
> > Personally, I still run mutt either from the gnome-terminal using orca or
> > from a standard virtual console using speakup.  In my opinion, just because
> > orca provides us with very good access to graphical applications it doesn't
> > necessarily make them the best for the job, and I haven't seen a graphical
> > email client that can compete with mutt.
>
> I agree, and Mutt also works very well with BRLTTY, particularly if you

I agree with the cmd email client over graphical stuff, but must try mutt 
out since its probably more powerful than alpine...
I just got to find time to learn how to set it up/use it, that time is 
hard to find at the minute with goalball comps next week and school... And 
my life, and everything else that goes on... :-)

> specify
> set braille_friendly=yes

Cool, they made configuration options for the blind?
Nice, I'll do some research on it when I have time and may switch.

A couple of things I don't think alpine does is:
Search for words/sentences in mails.
I've been using grep as follows:
grep emacs /var/mail/d.dalton
(Which is kind of annoying because grep won't show me the lines just above 
and below the found text...
Can mutt do this and anyway of solving my grep problem?

> As for the more general point, my strategy is to use GUI programs only when
> they are the best tools for the task at hand. Often, under Linux, this is not

Well, ever since I became a linux user, perhaps the start or middle of 
last year, I have thought the same, I'm blind, so surely cmd based apps 
will be far easier to use than stuff that just looks nice and is easy to 
use for sighted people...
I really wish I had never used windows, but I dropped that 2 weeks after 
using linux and haven't booted it for over a year!

 > the case: working from the console is frequently more efficient.

indeed

> Another advantage of console-based e-mail is that you can choose which editor
> to use. Thus, if you are an Emacs enthusiast (or a Vim enthusiast), you can

I really like emacs, so how do I do this? I would prefer mutt if it could 
do this...

> I also agree with those on the list who have pointed out that copying text
> between X applications and terminal applications is sometimes desirable. I
> think this creates a strong rationale for fixing the remaining Orca and
> Gnome-terminal related bugs.

I wanted to write a daemon that would allow me to mark, cut and paste 
buffers from anywhere in linux, not only would this be extremely difficult 
I soon realised, but I have no idea where to start.

Thanks,

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Daniel Dalton

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