Re: [orca-list] more than one blank space are not recognized in thunderbird



Hi all,

This is all to do with the fact that if you type two spaces inbetween words in thunderbird then the first of these spaces is not an actual space character but a non-breaking space character.

How this is read when doing a say line depends on your speech system and synthesizer.

With gnome-speech and viavoice if I type

test.  message

I hear "test fullstop dot message" i.e the non-breaking space is being read as "dot".

If I read the same line with speech-dispatcher and viavoice, I get "test dot message" I'm not sure if the "dot" here is refering to the full stop or the non-breaking space.

With speech-dispatcher and espeak the non-breaking space is called "half-space" so if you read the above line you'd hear "test fullstop half-space message".

Of course, exactly what you hear is going to come down to your synth and language.

Paul

On 13/08/09 19:22, Willie Walker wrote:
> I am running Ibm via voice as my primary synthesizer.

IBM ViaVoice has been somewhat problematic. Can you try eSpeak and see if you experience the same problem?

Will

jose vilmar estacio de souza wrote:
Hi Will,
No matter If I am composing messages in plain text format or HTML format.

Also the same problem happens if I am reading a message.

Another observation is that if I am reading the entire message or reviewing by line, the word with more than 1 blankn after it is spelled instead of read.
The following text:
" test test "
is read as:
" t e s t t e s t "

I am running Ibm via voice as my primary synthesizer.
Thanks.

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On 08/13/2009 02:44 PM, Willie Walker wrote:
Hi All:

When reproducing this problem, does it matter whether you are composing messages in plain text format or HTML format?

Will

Michael Whapples wrote:
Hello,
Yes I find that too, however I didn't thing it was a bug, I thought it was related to the characters thunderbird uses when there are multiple spaces. In fact I have just confirmed what thunderbird uses by looking at the source for your message and I find the first two spaces in your example are inserted as non-breaking spaces (html character  ). Now should orca announce those, if so add such a bug/request for it.

Michael Whapples
On -10/01/37 20:59, Paul Hunt wrote:
Confirmed.

In fact I didn't even need to create a new message. I got that problem when reviewing your message below. the first two spaces inbetween the words are not spoken (nothing is), only the third space is spoken.

I have confirmed that this problem occurs when composing too.

Paul



On 13/08/09 11:15, jose vilmar estacio de souza wrote:
Hi all,
Probably this is related to thunderbird but I decided to report so that someone can confirm.

To reproduce try the following:

1. Create a new message using thunderbird.

2. In the body of the message type the following text:
"This is a test"
Without the quotations.
You must type 3 (three) blanks between each word.

3. Try to review the text using the left and right keys.

Note that some spaces are not announced.
Thanks.





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