My view is there are a few ways to correct this:
* gksu and gksudo should be fixed
* ubuntu could switch to gnome-su like opensuse does as surely they
want to give users a good experience and packages needing fixing won't
do that
* The user can switch to a system which does things properly by default
rather than fighting the system (opensuse has been named as having a
suitable system and opensolaris seems to work well from what I have
seen of it (I am unsure whether I would recommend opensolaris to a
newbie at the moment, it has a lot of promise but needs a few things
finishing off before its really ready for the beginner))
The last option is the only one which will immediately solve the
problem for the user, and in my mind moving away from ubuntu would be a
good step in itself.
Michael Whapples
On -10/01/37 20:59, Jacob Schmude wrote:
Hi
There is no fix with gksu and gksudo at the moment, that is the
problem. Systems such as gnome-su do not cause an issue, and neither
does an application that's written to use policykit though as I said in
my previous message, the application would have to be refitted to use
it at the source code level. That's the smart way to go imho, since the
security of policykit is much tighter than sudo and more flexible and
configurable.
You can get gnome-su running on Ubuntu but it's a bit involved,
with the latest versions of Ubuntu you need to compile it as there
doesn't seem to be a package anymore like their used to be. Then
activate the root account (as it's not active on Ubuntu by default) and
edit each shortcut in the menus that uses gksudo and replace gksudo
with gnome-su.
The only other thing you can do is edit your sudoers file and
make it so your username never requires a password while sudoing, this
will skip over the issue with gksudo prompting for your password and
breaking Orca. I do not recommend this however, it's a huge security
risk as it grants anyone who might gain access to your machine instant
root privileges through that account.
On Dec 26, 2009, at 23:29, hank smith wrote:
what is the fix to fix this in gui?
this is a huge linux turn off fore me
I am a gui user and need to get this fixed or find a way to
add remove packages etc etc
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Administrative
Tasks in Ubuntu
Hi
The smart thing to do, and some of Ubuntu's tools have
already done this, is to implement their security with policykit. Have
a look at the authorizations, users and groups, and date/time
administration utilities to see this in action. They don't require sudo
and get their authorization when needed after you press the "unlock"
button and type your password.
Regarding gksudo... seriously, GNOME/gksudo developers if
any are here, isn't it time this is fixed already? That's been a thorn
for how many years I can't even remember. The problem clearly relates
to gksu and gksudo specifically, as we can run admin tasks from the
command-line using sudo without problems, and systems such as gnome-su
(used in OpenSUSE) also work fine. To any Ubuntu devs listening, gksudo
is a major accessibility problem and needs fixed or replaced at this
point. And yes, this is still the case in Lucid.
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