Re: [orca-list] scope of this list

[Jon <j orcauser googlemail com>]

Thanks for your replies,

@ThomasWard, yes you are saying that you want a single point of contact, 
and what some people feel is that maybe the blinux list should be used 
for this purpose, and if more specialist advise is required then one 
should ask the question/report the problem on the specific 
list.
The point is not to deny helping each other, but to have this help 
targeted, as well as having space for feature discussions and 
improvement suggestions.
Most of us are subscribed to these various mailing lists, but when I go 
to the blinux list I am happy and have the time to help, and when i read the 
orca list i want to see if someone has reported a problem that i've come 
across, or if i wish to discuss a particular feature.
I know for certain that I am not the only person that do this. It is 
just a little bit of a colture difference for people that come from 
windows, and its another small thing that we all had to learn at some 
point. The idea is not to be negative or unhelpful, but to be 
constructive and guide people to the right channels.


@CraigBlake, I can't remember if the various email lists are linked to 
from the orca wiki, I will look and update if they are not there 
already.
Yes, discussion of features/improvements are very much ontopic for this 
list. If your idea is very clear and you don't wish to discuss it with 
other users first, then you can open a bugzilla ticket with your feature 
request/improvement with a detailed description. Sometimes we reach a 
consensis then a ticket is opened.
If the suggestions are unrelated, then one email per suggestion with a 
good subject please :)

@Nolan, it would be a shame if all of us old orca list members 
unsubscribed, it is better if we try to work together to remind each 
other when we go off topic, otherwise you would not be the only one to 
unsubscribe, and our orca would be the worse off.

@ChristopherChaltain, liberal is good, but having to delete over 100 
messages for the last few weeks unrelated to orca or orca specific 
features is not ideal. If you want a comparison just look at the archive 
of the last two months, and the same two months from two years ago, and 
look at the ratio between related/unrelated messages.
Your point of having good clear subject lines is very valuable, most 
these things are mensioned in the orca list guidelines linked to at the 
bottom of each orca list email: 
http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions/NetiquetteGuidelines 
It is excellent that we are getting more users and every single one is 
welcome.

@mattias, the blinux list would be more active if more people asked 
questions there.

Thanks.

On Mon 15/08/11,14:56, Nolan Darilek wrote:
> On 08/15/2011 02:49 PM, Jon wrote:
> > Do people feel the same/any other views?
>
> Absolutely. I've brought this up many times previously, and
> generally people agree, but nothing gets done. I was thinking that I
> might just leave the list this time.
>
> I get that it seems nice to help people, and to answer off-topic
> questions. However, think of what would happen if *everyone* on
> *every list* did that. If my Scala list is spammed with Ruby
> questions, my ATX Hackerspace group gets postings on San Francisco
> events, and my Android list gets overwhelmed by questions from
> iPhone users, then what's the point of mailing lists? For every one
> person who says "I can't get my wireless to work. I use Orca. I'll
> send that to the Orca list!" hundreds of us spend time deleting. And
> just where do we draw the line in that case? At the moment I'm
> learning about internet marketing. I use Orca. Should I start
> posting questions about advertising and affiliate marketing here
> because I happen to use Orca while doing these things?
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