I don't think I'd recommend that to
      somebody just switching from Windows.  It sounds amazingly
      complicated and full of issues that they wouldn't be used to
      dealing with.  And, Ubuntu has the latest Gnome in 12.10 if I
      remember correctly.  Either way, it's way way easier with far
      fewer headaches for domeone making the switch than Debian Sid is. 
      
      
      
      Alex M
      
      On 11/29/2012 12:55 AM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
    
    
      Debian sid has GNOME Desktop with cinnemon  which is like GNOME
        2 and is accessible.
      MATE is just like  GNOME 2 but uses mate applications which are
        inaccessible.
      Debian Sid has latest GNOME 3 point something which just came
        out which makes GNOME 3 just likr GNOME 2 but only much better. 
        Ubuntu doesn't  have it.
      With Debian Sid you always have the latest packages and it
        rolls instead of being released.
      Debian's problems are you have to add multimedia and non-free
        repositories to it.  Also Debian will not allow Firefox or
        Thunderbird because the icons  are copyrighted.
      Also Debian used Desktop packages as does Ubuntu so if you
        wanted to remove mate-terminal  and put in gnome-terminal which
        talks, the package system says it has to remove the rest of
        GNOME.  Really stupid.
      Easiest thing to do is install Debian MINT, edit
        /etc/apt/sources file and paste in Debian sources and put # in
        front of the Debian MINT sources.
      You can use smxi to do updates.
      Unfortunately you have to edit that script file and comment out
        the section that mentions Debian MINT because smxi thinks it
        will not work.
      Debian is much easier to use than Ubuntu if you do a bit of
        work..
      Also you need to know what drivers you nerd for wifi but once
        you know the name it is done for you.
      Debian could use jockey-gtk but that darned FREE software
        policy does not allow that.
      If Ubuntu goes back to a recular desktop, all will be well.
      If someone made a working command line iso file of ARCH linux
        that talks I would go with that as it has the very new GNOME
        that one again talks even though it is designed for touch screen
        which is a seeing thing.  I would install ARCH in a heartbeat
        but I have tried three three times to install but I cannot do
        it, it is like the instructions are missing.
      But even with Ubuntu going touch screen and MATE which is a 2.0
        like desktop, all that insanity is still better than Windows.
      David
      On Nov 28, 2012 7:53 PM, "Christopher
        Chaltain" <
chaltain gmail com>
        wrote:
        
          Why wouldn't you consider Ubuntu? I think Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
          would be
          close to what you're looking for.
          
          On 28/11/12 18:48, John J. Boyer wrote:
          > I am thinking of switching from Windows to Linux for
          ofgice work. So I
          > want to avoid the bleeding edge, but I do want reasonably
          up-to-date
          > accessibility features and desktop. I'll be using
          LibreOffice. What
          > would be a good compromise between Ubuntu and CentOS?
          >
          > Thanks,
          > John
          >
          > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 06:23:07PM -0500, Thomas Ward
          wrote:
          >> Hello John,
          >>
          >>
          >> On 11/28/12, John J. Boyer <john boyer abilitiessoft com>
          wrote:
          >>>
          >>> My question is whether anyone has had experience
          with Orca on CentOS
          >>> 6.3.
          >>
          >> Well, is there something specific you want to know?
          About the only
          >> thing I can tell you is because CentOS is largely
          using Enterprise
          >> packages like Red Hat Enterprise the accessibility
          stack is extremely
          >> old. From what I can tell CentOS 6.3 is still using
          Gnome 2.x and
          >> at-spi 1.x, and they are way behind in terms of
          modern Orca
          >> dependencies etc. This isn't unusual for Enterprise
          Linux as every
          >> Enterprise system I've seen over the last couple of
          years is way
          >> behind in terms of VI access packages where
          distributions like Ubuntu
          >> try to stay on the bleeding edge of things.
          >>
          >> Cheers!
          >> _______________________________________________
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          >> Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca
          for more information on Orca.
          >> The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
          >> The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
          >> Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
          >> Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
          >
          
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          chaltain at Gmail
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