Re: [orca-list] gvim

[Alex Midence <alex midence gmail com>]

I use Vim with Speakup in a console.  That is truly the very best way to use CLI applications.  I have had 
similar issues with using applications inside of gnome-terminal with Orca.  If there is an editor that I want 
to use while in a Gnome session, it is either Gedit or Nano.   Mostly, when I am using an editor in the 
terminal it is to edit some config file or other as root because, for some reason, Orca stops speaking if I 
run Gedit with gksu or sudo to open a file as root.  

Thanks.
Alex


-----Original Message-----
From: orca-list [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of Vojtech Polášek
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 1:27 AM
To: orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] gvim

Hi,
well I vanted to use Vim from the command line, but orca behaves veirdly with it.
Maybe it can be fixed.
I open Vim from Gnome terminal and press A to append text.
I can write fine.
But when I try to read text by pressing up and down arrows, it behaves inconsistently. sometimes it reads a 
line without problems, sometimes it reads just "Empty", sometimes it reads "empty" and the line...
How do you use it?
Were you able to get Emacs to work? I like gedit, so far, but I would like to use some of those editors 
because there are loads of nice plugins for them.
Thanks,
Vojta


Dne 29.5.2014 04:04, Alex Midence napsal(a):
> Plain old Vim works well.  Just access it as a CLi application and not a GUI one.  Iv you don't like Vim, 
> you can use another VI port like Elvis or something.  Eitehr way, it's very useful to learn as it is 
> ubiquitous.
>
> Alex M
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: B. Henry [mailto:burt1iband gmail com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 5:40 PM
> To: Alex Midence; orca-list gnome org
> Subject: Re: [orca-list] gvim
>
> I think aviword draws the text using some kind of bitmap as it were instead of using normal text, or at 
> least that is what I was told a few years ago. I have no idea about gvim, but have not heard of it being 
> accessible. I have always stuck with using traditionally cli editors in VTs, and gedit, mouse-pad or 
> bluefish when working in a graphical invironment, although I must confess I've started nano by reflex quite 
> a few times when in a terminal emulator.
> --
> B.H.
>
> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 04:10:16PM -0500, Alex Midence wrote:
> > I have never been able to use Gvim with gtk interface.  The menus are 
> > accessible but the widget containing the text you are typing is not.
> > I do not know why.  Similar behavior can be observed in applications 
> > like Abiword and Gnumeric.
> >
> > alex M
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: orca-list [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of 
> > Vojtech Polášek
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:57 PM
> > To: orca-list
> > Subject: [orca-list] gvim
> >
> > Hi,
> > I wanted to start with Vim, however if I want to use it in Gnome 
> > terminal, it is not very pleasant, because Orca is reading "empty line"
> > before every line.
> > I tried to install Gvim - Vim with GTK interface, but this doesn't 
> > read lines at all.
> > Can I help you somehow to debug this? It should use normal GTK 
> > interface so I don't know, why there exists a problem.
> > Thanks,
> > Vojta
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