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Re: [orca-list] Fwd: Problems with F123 dvd image

From what you say it sounds indeed like the dvd was not burned correctly. 
Once this is done as Fernando says you probably want to change your boot device order to put the cd/dvd and 
usb flash storage devices ahead of your hard disk. 
I personally prefer putting usb first, then cd/dvd and then the internal hard-drive, and whenever I can 
prefer working from a  pendrive instead of dvd or cd.
The one thing that you are aware of I am pretty sure that I'll say here for anyone new to this kind of 
situation is that you can override the boot order configured in the bios with somoe key, most common over all 
is f12 I think, but machines may use any functionkey, or other keys like escape to do this. YOu just have to 
get someone to look onscreen to see what messages flash across it shortly after the power button is pushed or 
check in documentation or on line to see what is used by the make and model in question. 
Some machines make it harder than others to change the default boot order, and if your sighted helper has 
never done any bios  configuration, or generally is not particularly computer savvy you may find it easier to 
just use the boot order key, at least till you find some one else who can help who has more experience and or 
patience.
Repeatedly press the boot sequence override key starting with in a second of hearing the fan start to spin or 
pretty much as soon as you press the power button on the computer. I'm talking two or three times a second. 
You can try just holding down the boot order change key instead, but this may not work as well in some cases. 
You may hear a beep from your pc-speaker at some point, especially if you hold down the boot-order key. If 
you do you may have caused a minor problem, that's why it's better to use the repeated press method in 
general. 
Anyway, after somewhere between 5-10 seconds you will have done what needed to be done. Stop pressing the 
boot reorder key and wait a second or so. Then down arrow once and press enter if the bios has usb set as the 
2nd device in the boot order list, twice if usb is set 3rd, etc. If you don't have any eyes you can borrow 
try the one  or the other wait a minute to give the device a chance to boot the machine, and if it has not 
power off and start over, but down arrow twice if you only did once first time around, visa versa  if the 
contrary was true. It could be fourth, so try down arrowing 3 times if one and two fail, and try a couple 
times each just in case you did something wrong before starting to worry. 
A cpouple other hints. Instead of just down arrowing once, twice etc after you stopped pressing the boot 
order override key and waited a second or two, try this. Wait that second or two and then down arrow once and 
up arrow once. Usually I've found that the bootorder list doesn't loop around, i.e. when you get to the top 
you can't go any further even if you keep pressing the up arrow, same would be true at the bottom of the 
list. At least once this was not the case though, at least that appeared to be the case according to my 
borrowed eyes. Assuming the first more common condition is what you have moving down, back up and then down 
to the desired item in the list does two things. First you don't have to worry about  any quick timeout you 
showed the machine you wanted to do something so you probably have a lot longer to do what you  are going to 
do before the machine decides to use the default boot device. Also, in case your computer takes a bit longer 
to get ready to boot/display the boot order list you gave it that time with out risking a time out by waiting 
too long in case you did not have to wait. 
One last thing. If you  have a boot menu set-up that beeps when the boot menu displays, (usually grub if it 
beeps), you won't hear the beep as you won't get that menu/screen if you did things correctly. You are doing 
all this so as not to boot from the default device. Bottom line is if you hear that tone  you are used to 
hearing when it's time to press enter, or choose to boot from one OS or another, e.g. you have installed some 
linux distro on a system that already had windows on it, or another flavour of Linux, you will need to power 
off and start over
This is a lot about a little, but for someone not experienced with overriding boot-order it can be a bit 
unsettling to be pressing a lot of keys not hearing anything. The one advantage of using a cd or dvd as 
compared to a usb-stick is that the cd/dvd drive makes noise when it is in use so you can get some idea 
whether or not anything is actually happening. I don't particularly trust optical disks to not be or quickly 
get corrupted, and the better speed of a usb-stick is a big plus when running from a live system.
I need to reword this to make as clear and concise of a note as possible for wiki howtows about using live 
systems for testing and installation. 
If anyone has ideas/tips for selecting boot device with out sight, please share them. 
It'd sure be nice if all computers came with usb and cd/dvd set ahead of the default internal HDD on the 
boot-order list, but I guess it'd be scarey for someone who forgot and left  a disk in the machine...lol
  
         
   

On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 12:05:02PM -0300, Fernando Botelho wrote:

Ollie, you may want to send an email to this address so that we can
figure out what is happening through the F123 list instead of the
generic Orca list:
f123english-subscribe yahoogroups com

Having said that, please check and see if when you open the DVD on
Windows you see multiple files or just one big ISO file. If the DVD
contains just one ISO file, then it was burned incorrectly.

Another possibility is that BIOS is not setup correctly. Please make
sure that the boot sequence has DVD drive first, USB devices second,
and hardisk last.

Thanks,

Fernando




On 10/18/2014 11:15 AM, Mallard wrote:




--------  Messaggio Inoltrato --------
Oggetto: Problems with F123 dvd image
Data: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 16:03:24 +0200
Mittente: Mallard <mallard ilgerone net>
A: orca_list gnome org

Hello all,
I downloaded the .iso of F123 to try it, as it looks exactly like what
i'd love to have, in terms of an arch-based distro.

I burned a dvd, but when I run it, nothing happens.

I'm trying it out on a machine that runs Windows7 and has a partition
with Ubuntn-Gnome 14.04.

I got sighted help, and i was told the problem seems to be that the boot
media cannot be found.

Whad have I done wrong, possibly in burning the dvd?

Thanks in advance, and congratulations and best wishes for this project,
which seems really great.
Ollie


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