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Re: [orca-list] dealing with gnome-shell on new system

Hello,
Are you running pulseaudio or have you removed or prevented it from starting for a good reason? Can you hear beeps through your sound card as you navigate to the start / end of a line in gnome terminal? i.e. after starting gnome terminal do multiple presses of the left and down arrow key cause that beeping sound to play? Are you running this on desktop or on a laptop? Does this have multimedia keys so you can try just increasing sound volume if it has been inadvertently muted or is currently being set into a verry low level to be audible? 
Can you just try using espeak through the gnome terminal e.g.
espeak hello
This are some questions from the top of my head to be able to decide what to do next. If you are using pulse audio then most likelly your sound is just muted. If you have no way to turn it up using the multimedia keys, you might try from the terminal Do you have multiple sound devices? If not then the following commands might be helpfull. You can even do this remotelly via SSH 
pactl set-sink-mute 0 0
pactl set-sink-volume 0 60%

If this does not work then you can see list of devices pulseaudio is seeing
pacmd list-sinks | more
They are indexed and you can replace the device index in the commands above where I have put 0 so if you are about to unmute pulseaudio sink numbered 1 you would instead do 
pactl set-sink-mute 1 0
If you are running with pulseaudio disabled or stopped then you need to tweak speech-dispatcher configuration not to use pulseaudio but to use alsa instead. 
I have always been doing this by manually editing a file
/etc/speech-dispatcher/speechd.conf
In this file there is a line like this
# AudioOutputMethod "pulse"
You would need to change this into
AudioOutputMethod "alsa"
There is also utility app to change the configuration of speech-dispatcher called 
spd-conf
however I have never use that.
One more hint. If espeak hello inside a gnome terminal works and you do know you are not running pulseaudio then you are sure you need to change speech-dispatcher output module configuration to alsa. This is because by default espeak either uses pulseaudio or alsa depending on what's available. 

Greetings

Peter

On 12.08.2015 at 07:46 Don Raikes wrote:

So running spd-say hello gives me nothing  no sound no error messages nothing.
I did this from within a gnome-terminal.

So how do  I go about debugging speech-dispatcher?
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From: Peter Vágner [mailto:pvdeejay gmail com]
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To: Alex Midence; kendell clark
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Subject: Re: [orca-list] dealing with gnome-shell on new system

Hello,
Just little note to add. I think correct command to diagnose speech-dispatcher is spd-say hello

Greetings

Peter

On 12.08.2015 at 02:47 Alex Midence wrote:

Sounds like a problem with speech dispatcher. Orca appears to be running. Since you're getting braille 
feedback Type control alt T. And type -say ' Hello' .if you do not get any sound, then you have identified  
your problem and need to troubleshoot speech dispatcher.

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 11, 2015, at 7:25 PM, kendell clark <coffeekingms gmail com> wrote:

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hi
Gnome shell 3.14 is definitely usable with orca. What you might have
to do is to turn the desktop icons back on in gnome tweak tool. For
some reason they're off by default. I don't know whether kali linux
has a mate version, and if not you'll have to install the mate
desktop from teh kali repos. After this is done just select the mate
session in gdm and you're good to go.
Thanks
Kendell clark


Don Raikes wrote:

Hello,

I just installed the latest version of kali linux (debian
derrative). When I boot into the system, I have a couple of
problems.

1. I am getting no sound out of orca. I am getting Braille feedback
but no speech.

2.Unfortunately kali is using the new gnome-shell which seems to be
almost impossible to use with orca.

Is there an easy way to deal with this gnome-shell desktop?

Gnome-shell 3.14.2-3

Gnome-orca 3.14.0

Is switching to mate a viable alternative, and how difficult is it
to get everything working in mate?

-- Sincerely, Donald

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_______________________________________________
orca-list mailing list
orca-list gnome org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
The manual is at
http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out
how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp

_______________________________________________
orca-list mailing list
orca-list gnome org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out how to help at 
http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
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