Re: [orca-list] a few miscellaneous issues to report

[kendell clark <coffeekingms gmail com>]

hi
Got it. I'll file the bugs against mate for the apps run as root option.
I wonder, did I step in something? Your response sounded a little
irritated, and I hope I didn't irritate you. The slider thing was always
more of a curiosity. I'm perfectly happy with what orca does not.
Besides if you changed it, inevitably someone would come along who
thinks it should be done this way or who would want a config option to
set it. Then someone else would come along who thinks orca is getting
too configurable and so on. I'm happy with orca the way it is.
Thanks
Kendell clark


On 12/06/2015 12:03 AM, kendell clark wrote:
> hi
> Yup, you did and I reported all of them to them on github. I'm only
> reporting it hear to see if anyone else has it or if it's something
> unique to my panel config, which is one large bottom panel, rather than
> the usual one on top and one on bottom
> Thanks
> Kendell clark
>
>
> On 12/05/2015 11:58 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > Hi Kendell.
> >
> > On 12/05/2015 12:57 PM, kendell clark wrote:
> >
> > > one is related ... I'm not sure if it's firefox or not. First, orca
> > > seems to get stuck in mate's panel. I've already sent joanie a debug log
> > > on this and it looks like after one of my applets, orca seems to lose
> > > focus on the panel and will no longer read it.
> >
> > I thought I responded already in great detail privately with suggestions
> > for you to try -- all of which, however, were designed to help you work
> > with the MATE developers because it appears that keyboard focus is stuck
> > (and would be for all keyboard users) or accessibility support is broken
> > (no events).
> >
> > To be clear: From what you have shared with me: Not Orca. Cannot be
> > worked around in Orca.
> >
> > > Second, it is impossible to access applications run as rootwith orca.
> >
> > That means Orca is not getting accessibility events. No events means
> > nothing for Orca to present. Because a debug.out shows events Orca gets
> > and how Orca responds to those events, sending me a debug.out from the
> > problem you describe will not be helpful as it will simply confirm no
> > events.
> >
> > Conclusion: Not Orca. Cannot be worked around in Orca.
> >
> > > Sometimes, when orca encounters a slider, it will say the current value
> > > but not the percentage associated with it.
> >
> > Conclusion: Design decision. If everyone thinks that Orca should present
> > both, I can modify Orca to do so. No debug.out is needed.
> >
> > > The last issue is that
> > > when reading in say all, if the volume keys are pressed, orca seems to
> > > get interrupted, instead of continuing to read. My guess is that there
> > > is a pop up window on screen which displays teh new volume.
> >
> > Your guess is correct. Making SayAll continue reading even though
> > something else has popped up may be a possibility. I'll look into it.
> >
> > --joanie