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Re: [orca-list] Ot: does anyone have a certification from the Linux foundation?

The problem is that some folks just could not swing it for one reason or another, and how to go back to 
college both time and money wise later in life 
can be very challenging to say the least.
Not finishing highschool is pretty dumb in most cases, and if you are bright enough to not need it then you 
should be able to finish an adult ed 
highschool program in weeks I'd think.
Anyway, the only reason I even chimed in on this at all is that I did hear reports, think on business news 
about several major companies dropping degree 
requirements for many positions. I'm talking mjor i.t. players, but do not remember which ones. 
Come to think of it they may have been talking more developers/coders than admins also, and I can see where 
it'd be more likely that someone might not 
pick up on some of the skills they need on their own when it comes to some aspects of administration. The 
sikill set is a bit more diverse than that for 
programming I'd say.
      


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  John Heim wrote:
Wed, Mar 09, 2016 at 03:20:52PM -0600


Yes, many jobs at a high school, college, or university legally
require you to have a degree. No matter how much they might have
liked a candidate for my job, for example, they couldn't have hired
him without a BS degree. Even in the private sector, not having a
degree is a huge drawback at least in a place like Madison where
even the guy that serves you coffee has a BS degree. If you were
hiring, what would you think of someone who didn't finish high
school? I am extremely sympathetic to that kind of thing. Believe
me, I understand how life can run you down. But if I was running a
company, I'd want people who had the discipline to at least finish
high school. These days, that same kind of thinking applies to
college.

Most ads say that the job requires a BS degree or equivalent
experience. Of course, the problem would be getting the equivalent
experience without the degree. I talked about how around here, jobs
for linux systems admins go unfilled but those are not entry level
positions. My department has jobs that require a BS degree and those
that don't. The last time we had a job that required a degree, we
got 5 applications. The last time we had a job that didn't require a
degree, we got more than 30.


Personally, I don't know why anyone would not want to go to college.
You don't have to go to Harvard. Just go to your state university.
You will have tons of fun, learn a lot, and set yourself up for a
great career.  Well, major in something useful, like Comp Sci.


On 03/09/2016 12:04 PM, Alex Midence wrote:

Bummer.  So, you could have someone who is perfectly knowledgeable, perfectly competent but who won't get 
hired because he or she doesn't have a BS degree.  Wow.  Maybe the lpi Certification might make the 
difference for somebody like that then.

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Subject: Re: [orca-list] Ot: does anyone have a certification from the Linux foundation?

Well, I don't know anything about certifications but  I work as the linux admin for the Math Department at 
the University Of Wisconsin.
Managing the mail, print, database, and web servers isn't even that big a part of my job. I do all that 
but I also manage the research cluster for the faculty. We have some machines with 32 to 40 cores that are 
tied into everybody's office computer so they can use their office machine as a node on the cluster. It's 
all linux. As you may know, almost all high performance computing is done on linux computers. Anyway, my 
point is that I almost never have accessibility problems.  For a career for a blind person, I think linux 
systems admin is about as level a playing surface as you are going to find.
I am not sure what the demand is for linux systems admins in other parts of the world but around here it's 
really high. Jobs go unfilled for years because of the lack of qualified candidates. This is a university 
town and that is what accounts for the demand. The university creates it's share of jobs but many are also 
created by businesses spun off of the university. All the jobs around here, even most of those in the 
private sector, require a BS degree or better.

On 03/08/2016 02:27 PM, austinAustin quesada wrote:

Hi. I figured i would ask this here, as i trust this community to give
me some honest answers. So, recently, i have been looking in to being
certifyed from the Linux foundation, for employment purposes. From
what i gather, there is quite a demand for Linux systems admins, and
the pay is quite good here in the US. I'm wondering though if this
type of job would be practical using speakup and or orca to manage a
stable server environment, assuming of course that i actually land the
job? Any thoughts on the matter would be much appreciated. Also feel
free to share experiences and the like. Thanks.
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