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Re: [orca-list] Getting started using orca under ubuntu

Yes, this sounds like Unity and not Gnome. I think Unity was still the default desktop in Ubuntu 16.04. I think I installed Ubuntu Gnome from https://ubuntugnome.org/ubuntu-gnome-16-04-lts-is-here/ 


On 01/01/2018 08:49 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Maybe this is then not gnome - also testing it under a default installation of ubuntu 16.04 under a VMWare virtual machine under windows 10, and, if I hit alt + F1, it brings up a form of software listing, focused on a search box, but, only lists like 5 applications there, and, if I hit the super/windows key, it tells me unity launcher -, and, hitting alt + f10 activates the system settings, network connections, etc., menu?
And, here, alt + tab, and ctrl + alt + tab seem to have same functionality?
Will fire up the desktop PC, and see if it reacts the same way, but, I think it does. 


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2018/01/01 15:52, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
Assuming you're running Gnome, control+alt+tab will take you into the top bar. You should hear something like "top bar, not pressed activities not pressed". If you hit right arrow, you'll move across the menu and when you get to the far right, you'll be in the system menu. Now you can down arrow to wifi, bluetooth, volume, screen brightness, battery charge and power/suspend.
To get to the applications you have on your system, hit super first. You'll hear "windows". Now hit control+alt+tab once and you'll be in the dash. Hear you can arrow up and down through your list of favorites. If you hit super and then control+alt+tab three times, you'll hear "applications" and this will be the list of applications you have on your system.
If you want to use the GUI to install new software, hit super and then hit control+alt+tab three times to get into your list of applications. Now down and right arrow over to software and press enter. You'll be able to search for, install new software, uninstall existing software or update software you already have on your system.
I use Thunderfird for my email software and Firefox as my web browser, although I'll also occasionally use Chrome with ChromeVox. I just use the built in File browser, which is called Files on the favorites list. For editing, I'll use Gedit for a quick edit, but I spend most of my time in Emacs with Emacspeak. For multimedia, I usually just find what I want to listen to and use the Video option in the context menu. You also have RhythmBox on your Ubuntu 16.04 system, and of course, there are other options. 


On 01/01/2018 07:19 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Christopher, all ctrl + alt + tab seems to do is bring up the switcher window, whether or not I first hit super key, or whether I hit it once, twice, or three times?
Effectively, I am trying to find installed software, as well as possibly install additional packages via the GUI interface?
Would then also ask for recommendations for basic pieces of software, like e-mail client software, multimedia playback software, programmer's code editor software, web browser of choice, file explorer software, etc. etc.? 

Thanks

Jacob Kruger
 Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2018/01/01 00:59, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
I run Ubuntu 16.04 with Gnome and Orca. I can't tell from your message what you're trying to do. If you ask how to do something, I can tell you how I would get it done in this environment.
You could try hitting control+alt+tab to get you to the top bar. Right arrow to the various menus and then down arrow. I find everything is spoken.
Just hit the super key followed by control+alt+tab to get to the dash or hit it three times to get to the list of applications on your system. 


On 12/29/2017 08:16 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
I am busy setting up a second machine, which might become my primary development platform, since I am primarily a web developer, who works with PHP, etc..
Anyway, my primary platform up to now has been windows, working with the NVDA screen reader, but, I have already got a desktop PC, with a 275Gb solid-state drive, which has ubuntu 16.04 installed on it, with orca up and running, and, I am pretty comfortable with the object navigation/screen review commands, since they are relatively similar to NVDA on the windows platform's object navigation, and, also since I have played around with raspberry pi mini computers in the past, running the raspbian version of debian linux - there worked with a version of speakUp, working primarily command line.
However, my introductory question actually relates to the use of Ubuntu, and/or the configuration thereof.
This is since neither the gnome menu/search box, brought up using left alt+F1, and the unity launcher, brought up using the super/windows key on the keyboard seem to offer much in conjunction with orca - not with current configuration, in any case?
This is since both of them seem to, at various points, just not read out focus items to me, or, under unity launcher, it will just tell me something like "push button", without reading any form of description beyond that out to me.
In other words, should I consider a prior version of ubuntu, or a completely different instance of linux, or is there some additional setting, or form of configuration I should look into?
Lastly, the reason I am asking these questions is since I would want to use the machine as a complete PC, working on it as a coding platform, as well as my work machine, and for leisure activities like reading eBooks, playing music, audio editing, etc. etc. 


TIA

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

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